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The Ace Theological Company’s
95 Theses

Good morning…
5:11 a.m.
Tue, Dec 14th, 2021.
48º outside… that’s warm.
That means I can fold up that plastic tarp today.
Can’t do it when it’s too cold.

So, we want to pick up on this “95 Thesis” thing… complaining about the mess we see in religion, especially organized religion.
And where I wanted to go this morning is concerning the beloved concept of “freewill”.

    I don’t know why they love that thing so much… but let’s explore:
    Dear Freewill Chick —
    Dear Bill —
    Dear A.K. —
    Dear Jack Smack —
    Dear Josh, Not Josh —
    (You can tell I don’t get out much, those are all the folks I know who preach freewill crap. Back when I use to “go to church” everyone I knew believed it or preached it. And those who did not “preach” it still believed it. — I’m telling you, it’s a beloved doctrine… but why?)
    So, here is my question to you…
    Never mind whether the “doctrine of freewill” is actually taught in the Bible or not…
    The question is: Does the teaching of FREEWILL by it’s very nature give glory to GOD? or MAN?
    I just don’t see how you can say that freewill glorifies God. The whole concept, lowers God to a position in which He has to bargain with man. And it raises man to a position in which he can alter God’s intention, purpose and plans.
    How silly to think man can foil the plans of the One who gives life and breath and all to all. (ACTS 17:25-28)
    When I was first thinking of slapping together this morning’s thoughts… I was going to open it up by saying…
    “Dear Proud One,”
    And I was going to bust the chops of the freewill chick and her co-workers — accusing them of having so much pride and prattle on, as if my accusations could help them “see” and help them give up that pride, and dump the freewill teaching.
    But after thinking a minute or two… I saw how foolish that would be to tell those guys, “Hey, you’re proud. Why don’t cha give up that pride”… Like that argument would go anywhere.
    But the truth is, freewill does lead to pride, pride and more pride. You “chose” of your own “freewill” to humble yourself before God, wow, you must be so proud.”
    No way around it.
    One reason we are honored to prattle on against “freewill” in this thing we’re calling “Ace Theo’s 95 Thesis” – Is that Martin Luther was also hip to the idea that freewill is B.S. In fact, he wrote a book called THE BONDAGE OF THE WILL.
    To the best of my knowledge no-one has written a book called “THE FREEDOM OF THE WILL”. Now all those guys listed above, and more, certainly believe and teach that we are burdened with a “free” will…. But to write a book with that title is crazy. It’s easy to toss the word “freewill” around as if it means something and everyone understands what you mean… but to outright say “the freedom of the will” instantly begins to expose your ruse.
    We all know intuitively that our “will” doesn’t have much wiggle room. The title of Luther’s book makes much more sense than the alternative.
    Back to the question:
    Does the teaching of FREEWILL
    by it’s very nature give glory to GOD? or MAN?
    The question should scare us to death… if we really care about and love God and His Son. I say most don’t. The thing we call “the church” does not love and Honor God and His Son… but we can clearly see THEY LOVE FREEWILL. And the road that FREEWILL takes them down. They paint the story of God with the colors of human freewill and it’s not a pretty picture, I tell you. Through it all… they MUST glorify the creature and marginalize the Creator. (See Romans 1:25 — to worship the creature as oppose to the Creator).
    But… to ask these kids to give up their PRIDE… is ridiculous on my part. Down right silly of me. But hey, it’s worth a try.
    “Hey Freewill Chick and gang… humble yourself, and give up your teaching of freewill… and boy oh, boy, you’ll really be proud that you did it…” — See how silly such a notion would be. It’s gonna take a miracle of God, to open their eyes and if “humble” is the goal, then “humiliation” is involved, and I would want to pray that God humiliate them… and yet, that’s one of the designs God has for all of us.
    Just look at every lovely and beautiful little Pamela Anderson, or Tuesday Weld… We all get old, and cranky, and our beauty and memory fades. God is in the humiliation business. Freewill is such an immature teaching. I wish those “Bible teachers” would teach that ALL IS OF GOD. (Romans 11:36)
    I know it’s a frightful thought to shuck your freewill teaching and go down the road to teaching ALL IS OF GOD… there are so many questions to ask, so many things to unlearn, so many brain cells that have to be broken and re-wired. Yikes. Be right back… going to refill my coffee.
    5:52 a.m. — Pause 5:56 a.m. — onward. The closest I’ve ever come to “transforming” one of these guys is to wrestle him down long enough to get him to read Romans, chapter 8 and especially chapter 9… when we were done, he looked up and said “that’s a hard one”.
    Do you get it… ? Romans 8 and 9 went against everything he was taught and was teaching others about this beloved “freewill” thing. And he could not argue against his own teaching. But the Bible slams it. And him. So he says “That’s a hard one.”
    He wouldn’t commit to God’s revelation . He didn’t believe God.
    Does the teaching of freewill exalt man? Or God?
    Only in some twisted way can you say “Man’s freewill exalts God.” — can you see how absolutely goofy this is?
    Man’s freewill exalts man.
    My natural fallback to this argument is:
    What is man’s “freewill” free of?
    Free of influence? Causality? Peer pressure? Influences of birth? nationality? hair color? skin color? youthful desires? language barriers? I.Q?
    There are so many things that influence our will.
    But, thankfully, the ultimate influence on our will is God, the creator of all and the savior of all.
    And God’s will is what we want to exalt and glorify. And God wills to save all mankind. (I TIM 2:4) So, does God have a “freewill”???… what a question, huh? That question alone seems to piss off the freewill teachers. It too, exposes their ruse.
    How can we “believe” and “trust” a God who would give mankind so much responsibility as to determine his own destiny, when mankind is weak, infirm, ignorant, condemned in Adam, and lacking in so many ways. What kind of fool God would do that?
    Sterling, makes a good point… not even God’s will is “free” as we loosely use the term… Sterling says “God is bound to His word.” How lovely is that thought?
    I can’t help but think this is a very serious topic. The glorification of human freewill is so smelly, so sickening, so goofy. But what, oh what… would straighten out these fellows?
    God’s word? Nah, they don’t care ‘bout that.
    Logic? Nah, that doesn’t suit them.
    Grace? That too, goes over their head.
    I think the only thing that will destroy the teaching and glorification of “human freewill” is time and old age. The humility of God… God making us humble… by smacking us around… grey hair, hearing loss, achey joints, diseases that seem to come out of nowhere… you don’t hear those close to death yakking about “freewill”… they know. They know, they’d rather it be different, wildly different. Yet, all is of God.
    All begins with God. All ends with God.
    Can we get those guys to agree with that?
    No, they’d freak out about that thought.

(Romans 1:25 those who alter the truth of God into the lie, and are venerated, and offer divine service to the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed for the eons! Amen!) Freewill worship the creature, right? Yikes.
Maybe tomorrow, I’ll load up a bunch of verses from the Scriptures that are not “freewill” friendly.
Grace to you.
Thanks for joining me, this morning.
6:25 a.m. (end)

The Ace Theological Company’s
95 Theses

Good morning.
Or as Louie Armstrong says… “Hello”.
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021
26º out, looks like it dropped a foot of snow out my window, last night.

We’re suppose to be bitching about the problems caused by the modern-day church, but I’m thinking we need to pause for a moment and make sure our compass is right… so let’s establish, or re-establish something vital, in our epic journey… it’s that…


If we can point out this and that about the church… stuff wrong ‘bout them… we must also see that All is of God. So, why would God let these guys get so far out of whack? Could it be that He’s got a plan and purpose?
For all my complaining about them-thar guys, on the whole, I’m grateful for them. My days in the Pentacostal Holiness church, my hard-core Baptist (ex) father-in-law, my time at the Rock Church in Virginia Beach, all the mega-churches, charismatics, full-gospel business men, all the home churches, and my brief experiences with the ones that were more cult like.
God bless ‘em all. All is of God. God brought them all to the point where they are, and got me into them and moved me along out of them… all is of God.
This morning, I woke up, thanking God for “my life”… and I put “my life” in quotes… because what I’ve learned over the years is that “my life” is really “hid together with Christ in God”. (See Colossians 3)
So, whatever individual, personal experience I recount, there is something I cannot tell you much about — it’s “my life” that’s hidden. If it weren’t hidden… perhaps I could brag all about it. But Paul tells us (somewhere in Colossians 3) that “Your life is hid together with Christ in God”…. (PLEASE NOTE) I DID NOT LEARN THIS FROM THE BAPTISTS, OR PENTACOSTALS…. It was right there in the scriptures, kind of hidden from my eyes by all the baloney feed to me by the posers.
When you’re young in the faith, you’re easily fooled by the posers.
So… for this segment of our exploration this morning… I want to point out that not only ALL IS OF GOD as revealed in more that one place in God’s word… but… the thing we know as “the church” never once hinted at this topic. In fact, I saw with my own eyes, dear ones who got close to this thought… never did know what they were seeing… just got close to it… got kicked out of church.
Yesterday, I got into it with a so-called “atheist”… and he was all about “I don’t believe there is a God.”
Well sir… I’m here to testify, that not only is there a God, but it makes no sense at all to proclaim one, UNLESS you also proclaim that ALL IS OUT OF HIM. (Romans 11:36, etc.)
And I think we can make the argument, that since the poser church, does not believe and teach that ALL IS OF GOD, they, yes they, create more atheists than the national organization of atheist united.
You see, if there is a “GOD”… then stick to the proper meaning of the term “GOD”… And if God is God, then all is out of Him, through Him and for Him. (Romans 11:36)
Including all the things we don’t like. All is of Him.
So, the modern day churchyanity, says “God” is only a half-ass God… who creates some things but not all things… that leaves room for a competitive “God”… or a bunch of competitive Gods. All fighting it out for supremacy… my oh my… that sounds like a cheesy B movie plot. Low budget.
Indeed, indeed, the Sunday preachers all over, tell you that there is a great battle between “the gods”… one “good” God and one “evil” God… and lawd, have mercy, the “evil” God is gonna win the biggest number in the end.
But it’s bull. All is of God… nothing is a shock and a surprise to Him. Atheist are of God. Baptists are of God. Joseph is of God, and especially Joseph’s brothers are of God.
Judas is of God. Pilate is of God. The soldiers at the foot of the cross are of God. The crown of thorns was of God. His death was of God. And of course, 3 days later, His resurrection was of God.
And now… now… our faith is of God. We don’t gin up our own faith. It too is of God. We can’t brag.
So this atheist can’t see that ALL IS OF GOD… and that too is of God. And since the modern day “church” can’t see that all is of God… they have plenty in common with so-called atheists. Funny huh?
The atheist kid had a tooth ache, and said, if there is a God, PROVE it by healing his tooth ache… and I was thinking after the conversation was over… God has healed more than tooth aches… He has raised numerous people from the dead… so, He’s done that “trick” before, and it did not convert the atheist to faith… but here we have an atheist who’s saying DO IT FOR ME… FOR ME… HEAL MY TOOTH ACHE… and raising the dead is of the same order as healing a tooth… it’s healing a “body ache”.
I’m saying God has done and is doing all things… and all kinds of things… and He gives faith to some to see it, but not to all.
I’m thrilled with God’s operations as I see them these days.
God’s plan, God’s purpose… it is far wiser than I can fathom… but I catch a glimpse.
“I’d believe in God IF…
He’d heal my tooth…
Raise my daughter…
Heal my leprosy… (Remember Jesus healed 10 lepers, and only one returned to thank Him.)
Show me a one-in-a million-event… (open your eyes, it’s a one-in-a-million event.) How about the “miracle of live-streaming, YouTube, and an Ace Monkey typing miraculous words on a screen in Utah, and you ‘be” watching it right now. Wow.
Sooner or later, we’re going to have to jump into the topic of GRACE… because we’ve named this project THE 95 THESES after Martin Luther’s effort before us. And Luther was all about GRACE… in fact, he wanted to toss the book of James out of the bible, along with the book of Revelation. Ain’t that something.
If I never read the book of James or Revelation again, I don’t think I’d miss ‘em.
I’m stuck on Paul.
And Paul says… All is of God (II COR 5:18-19)
He also says… All is of God (Romans 11:36)
Repetitive boy, huh?
He also says…
“In Him we live and move and are.” (Acts 17:25,28)
“God gives life and breath and all to all.” (Acts 17:25,28)

Ok, it’s 5 minutes till 7 a.m.
Maybe tomorrow we can explore thoughts on GRACE… as “grace” is of God. And it seems the posers hate GRACE, it goes against ever fiber of a poser’s being. Smiling yet?

Grace to you.
P.S. You are of God.

The Ace Theological Company’s
95 Theses
Good morning.
It’s about 30º out, right now.
5:36 a.m.
The snow has yet to melt. Looks like it will be here for a week more.

We’re trying to weave our way through 95 things to gripe about concerning the modern day church. We could go in the doctrine direction or the behavior direction. Both are connected. The “church” behaves badly and they teach crap. So…

13… I thought I’d entitle this one: Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

My thought is how the church does not produce many Bonhoeffers. They, generally, produce the opposite of the dude.
I don’t know much about this man. He was a brother. He was a pastor. He was in the German Luthern (sp?) church. What makes him famous is that he was a pastor during the whole hitler thing. And he was famously against the whole hitler thing. While the rest of the “church” is famous for going along with the current ruling Pharaoh — just to get along… this Bonhoeffer guy, set out to kill hitler. Now that guy has guts. There are a few books about him. He’s got a wikipedia page. But you can count on the “church” not to produce many like him. They’re about money and money collection. Not principles. Not standards. Not integrity. Not honesty.
Years ago, I had a catholic friend. Late 70’s, early 80’s. Well… at breakfast one morning… I asked my catholic friend if the Catholic Church ever apologized for the Spanish Inquisition?
My friend changed the subject, and quick.
I compare the two… the Spanish Inquisition and Bonhoeffer. When it comes to power, rule, money, greed, and blood lettin’ the “church” does not have a good track record. And yet, they want us to believe they are the lamp-stand of God? They want to tell us to “go to church” ??? —
PLEASE NOTE: According to Paul, we are the church, we don’t “go to church” — big difference. Not a thought for the faint of heart.
SIDE NOTE: Paul Paulsen, I’m sure glad for your input on these matters and I just flat out love your comments, here and there.
So… back to our thought concerning the deception we call “the church”… I’m willing to say, if someone “finds God” in and through the efforts of the “church” is an accident really. They don’t have a “formula” that works, really. They’ve got formulas they follow… like that Billy Graham crusade thing… perhaps millions went up to the front and so-called “confessed their sins” and “accepted Jesus as their savior”… but where are they today? Do they brag about that Billy Graham experience? Nah… they have long sense forgot all about it.
I’m telling you guys… if God gives someone faith… it’s a miracle. And God is the author and finisher of the faith… and the Billy Graham formula is not it.
Note how Saul/Paul was brought in… he was not headed to a Billy Graham crusade… (lol) he was headed to town to teach those guys a lesson, they’ll never forget. Back lashes, blood letting’ and jail… is what he wanted for the saints.
But something wild happened to him. And the only words to drop from his mouth we’re not word of pride and arrogance… it was more like “WHO ARE’T THOU LORD?”
Let me ask you… would that have been a popular prayer at a Billy Graham crusade? The Billy Graham prayer, (BGP) that he taught those suckers to pray, when they came down front to confess their sins and “ask Jesus into their hearts”… the prayer was not as humble as Saul’s expression… No, the BGP was from a position of strength, a negotiation as it were… “God if you do this for me, I’ll do this for you”… in essence.
I bring this up… so you can see there’s not much “religion” in religion. Saul said “Who are’t thou Lord?” — In other words… Saul said “Oh shit”… There was no bargaining … no negotiation … no pride displayed when Saul was so rudely introduced to the Lord of all.
So, the Billy Graham, and all the organized christian church thing is a mere shadow of what’s really going on when God operates.
God does not “offer to save”… and you can thus, take advantage of His “offer”…. NO.. NO.. NO.. In God’s operations, God saves. He does not “offer” to save. There are no deals to be made.
So… if we insist on giving Bonhoeffer a proper salute… we’d have to say the “church” is and always will be just a shadow of what God is really doing in the world (at best). The “church” is and always will be a friend of the ruling elite. Even if the ruling elite is obviously criminal enterprise (with a fabulous PR budget).
We can see this in the first century… the Pharisees and the ruling Romans were best buds. Together they crucified the Inaugurator of Life. Together they chased the saints out of Jerusalem after murdering Stephen. Together they tried to put an end to Paul’s career among the Gentiles.
Again, I insist, the true “church” is always a loose band of believers, who occasionally get together. They don’t get too cozy in one place. They ARE the church, they don’t “go to church”… They are the “body of Christ.” A figure of speech so powerful, that we miss much of it’s implications… Everyone loves his own body. If any part of your body is achey, it gets immediate attention, love and care… oils, creams, vitamins, pain-killers, splints, stitches… whatever the body needs… IMMEDIATE ATTENTION… And WE are the body of Christ. And don’t forget, we get WASHED too… Paul reveals that… what it means, I don’t know… help me figure it out. Leave a comment.

The “church” we see in today’s world… is really just a highjacked edifice of the state. The church which is His body, is something spiritual.. and it’s something God creates, and cares for and can’t be taxed and can’t be expected to appear permanent… in any way. We might as well call it THE CHURCH ON THE BACK PORCH.
God bless Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

6:29 a.m. Coffee time, be right back.
6:35 a.m — cont’d

Now… in my scope of things… one of the biggest problems with the modern day “church” — (as oppose to the church which is His body) is that it’s a perfect Petri dish to grow a bunch of PRIDE, PRIDE PRIDE.
The “church which is His body” rarely gathers together. If you can find them on the back porch, you’re lucky. But this state approved organization with it’s tax exempt status, and it’s buildings, and parking lots, and chain of command… it’s the perfect place to establish that “tribal” thing which says “Your group sucks. And we’re super special.”
Ya know how we’re fond of saying “God is the savior”… (Ref: I TIM 4:10) And we follow up sometimes by saying YOU’RE NOT THE SAVIOR… God is. And we say “You don’t save yourself… God does.” In the same way… God creates the body of Christ. It’s HIS doing. He calls. He chooses. He brings it together. He scatters it. All for His own purposes. Wow.
Imagine that… That God has His own purposes going. And we might be let in on it… but it’s not vital if you see it.
“Need to know” basis.
Remember Sterling’s ecclesia at the Main Event? THAT is more of a church than anything we see with stained glass windows. “The church which is His body.” It’s God’s doings we’re seeing and talking about.
The real church gathers when God gathers it. It scatters just as quickly. Scattering should be bragging rights too.
Remember when Paul was finishing his career, he said “all in Asia have forsaken me.” — How strange. And how strange of us, not to explore that throw-away comment. “All have forsaken me”… it’s so easy to forget and forsake the things we see concerning God’s plan and purpose. It’s so easy to just get back to work trying to make a buck. It’s a “focus” thing, I think. Can you settle in the GRACE of God can not relish it moment by moment? I don’t know. Again… it’s God who is the author and finisher of YOUR faith. God is the savior. And the creator. What He starts, He will finish.
Don’t expect the “church” to ever do the “right thing”. They exist to appease the dark overlords. Bonhoeffer is a rare dude. The best you can do is get ready to spend some time on your back porch… where God is. And, it might help to spend some time in Paul’s letters.

Grace to you.
Until tomorrow, Lord willing.
6:57 a.m Dec 17th, 2021.
The sun will be up in about an hour.

P.S. If you scoot around and find out anything about Bonhoeffer, leave some comments about who and what he was all about.

The Ace Theological Company’s
95 Theses
Let’s see… it’s 21º out… should get to a high of 31º… so this snow ain’t never gonna melt off.
7:35 a.m.
Grace and peace, as Paul says on a regular basis.

14: We’re trying to use Martin Luther’s version of “social media” as a model. In his day, you have to write out stuff on paper and pass it around. So, he wrote 95 things he found wrong with the Catholic Church… and nailed it to the Whittenberg door. The door of the church in Whittenberg, Germany.

When he did that, a lot of things were set in motion. As I know my history (and I’m a little sketchy on Luther), this guy, Martin Luther was the go-to guy when it comes to the whole “protestant” movement. Other guys in other nearby countries also did a revolt against the Catholic behemoth. However, as I recall, Martin Luther went to war — yes “WAR” with some other “brothers”… in Switzerland I think… just over the border… Some anabaptists brothers. And there was bloodshed. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I read this years ago.
Martin Luther — my hero for 10 whole minutes… picks up the sword and acts just like the Catholics he was bitching about.
Is there no hope for this human condition?
Which is why I love the Divine Calendar you can find over on the site. It shows that God has 12 different “administrations” in which he deals with humanity. Everything from “Innocence” (Adam) to the Millennial Reign of Christ.
Here’s the link to that calendar:
To me… this calendar, with the 12 different ways God deals with Humanity is a wonderful and gracious thing. You know… we can only say “Hey God, if only you’d do it differently… we could prove ourselves to you.” — we can only say that so many times before it become ridiculous — So God gives us some 12 different “trails” in which to prove we can’t help ourselves out of the mess we’re end. We actually need a “Savior”. God.
So, along comes Luther, and points out 95 things the Catholics are doing wrong… screwing up here and there… and basically repeats their “thing” all over again. What a hoot.
Luther became the “pope”… in essence. The “pope” of the German rebellion form of the Catholic church. The “Lutherans”.
God is the savior.
So… I want to plant today’s flag into the mountain of GRACE… Which we can see in both the scriptures and in God’s daily operations and His eonian purpose.
I confess, I did not read Luther’s 95 Theses very carefully. But I think he was somewhat informed on God’s grace. To the point were, later on, he dismissed the “book of James” and “the book of Revelation”… And for that I tip my hat to Martin Luther.
But on the whole, I don’t think anyone can explore the depths of GRACE enough or too far.
You see, God not only “operates in grace”… meaning, when we spot it, we can say “Nice”… and “Smooth move”…
But also, “grace” is fundamentally God not waiting around until we get our act together…. And instead, showers us with really, really, good things… even though we DON’T and NEVER CAN deserve it.
So, I’m sure Luther did not see this as clearly as I’m going to argue it now… but I think EVERYTHING God does is IN grace… and God does everything. PERIOD.
God graciously created all. God graciously created Adam. God graciously put him in a garden and gave him a good-looking woman. God graciously put that tree right there within eyesight and God graciously told him not to eat of it… and God graciously stacked the deck so that he would eat of it.
God graciously kicked him out of the garden. God graciously let the shitshow begin.
You know, if Adam had not eaten of the forbidden fruit, it would be a bigger nightmare than the one we’re seeing now… it would be a Twilight Zone episode… Where man was stuck in perfection for eternity… and never knowing it was perfection… because all “knowledge” is a comparison and a contrast thing. You CANNOT know good, unless and until you know evil.
So, for all those who complain about our current state of affairs and all the evil we’re dealing with, just imagine a world of perfection without ever having known evil. That, my friend is “evil”.
So God comes along and God graciously introduces man to chaos and confusion and condemnation. How loving. How kind. Especially knowing He is the Savior of all.

8:11 a.m. time to refill coffee, be back shortly.
8:18 a.m. … let’s continue:

I suppose we could argue from the Scriptures about GRACE or we could argue from logic or philosophy…. Either way… we’re looking at the concept of ONE GOD… !!!!!!
If there is only ONE GOD, then of course all this is of grace. And plan. And purpose.
The suggestion that we must do thus and so to appease this unappeasable “God” is immature… stupid… conniving… the message of a con artists… Help me out… it’s maddening.
God is one. And there is one God.
You can’t get around it. Nothing else works.
He created all. And He ain’t no fool. He knew what he was doing before He began it all. God is not a haphazard gambler who doesn’t know the outcome of His creative efforts.
Now when you approach the scriptures and try to make it say God has lost control of His creation… or try to package it to give you an income… you’re part of the deception . No doubt about it.
God graciously locks up all together in unbelief and stubbornness… see Romans 11:32. Wow.
And as Sterling like to say “All is out of Him, through Him and for Him. Take a bite of of that verse (Romans 11:36) and taste the butter in it.
When you look at the writings of Paul… and almost memorize them… you see that he was fighting the “works” guys throughout his career. Why oh why… are “works” so popular with the organized “christian” world?
I suppose it’s easy enough to see that if they can get you to believe in a “works” message, they’ll have leverage over you. They’ll have “tribal” mentality to play with. The ole “those guys suck” idea, “Join our tribe, we’re right, they’re wrong.”
God bless those works guys. They are just as vital to God’s operations of GRACE as Judas, Joseph’s brothers, and Pilate.
Can you see why it’s kinda tough to write this “95” complaining thing… oh sure… we’ll find 95 things to complain about concerning “churchanity”… but we keep coming back to ALL IS OF GOD.
Maybe next time, when we get together, we can peek at the grace of God in the cross of Christ. That’s really where we want to be. Everything we see and know and hope for is really a blessing that comes out of and through the cross. That’s why Paul famously says “I HAVE DETERMINED TO KNOW NOTHING AMONG YOU SAVE CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED.”

Grace to you.
8:39 a.m.
P.S. it’s still 21º out there.

The Ace Theological Company’s
95 Theses
Monday, Dec 20th, five days ’til Christmas.
23º out there, 4:26 a.m.

Good morning dear one,

15 — I wanted to spend some time exploring this big idea we have concerning GRACE. You see, Martin Luther, began to explore this idea when he nail that theses to the door of the Whittenberg church. But I sure I’m not qualified to go on about this… let me show you something…

This is from Ephesians, chapter one: (look at verse 6—)

1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through the will of God, to all the saints who are also believers in Christ Jesus:

2 Grace to you and peace from God, our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who blesses us with every spiritual blessing among the celestials, in Christ,

4 according as He chooses us in Him before the disruption of the world, we to be holy and flawless in His sight,

5 in love designating us beforehand for the place of a son for Him through Christ Jesus; in accord with the delight of His will,

6 for the laud of the glory of His grace, which graces us in the Beloved:

I believe our whole message about God and His Christ should be mirroring verse 6… we should be singing the praises of God’s grace. But the vast majority of christian preachers and churches of all stripes are all about WORKS and SELF-HELP. They know nothing about God’s grace. They don’t know that WE ARE TO BE… FOR THE LAUD OF THE GLORY OF HIS GRACE.
You see, the “church” as we see it in the world has been throughly infected by the James Gang. As soon as some band of brothers stumbles into the evangel of grace, the evangel of our salvation… the James Gang comes along and goat-ropes them, corralling them into that works message and it’s just hard to cut loose and see what’s going on in the operation of God.
I think we can see the word GRACE in the “tip” we leave at the restaurant… right? It’s called a GRATUITY — and the word GRACE is hidden inside “gratuity”. So, the “tip” is not obliged, right? It’s freely given… supposedly. And the waitress (or waiter) is suppose to get a “bigger” tip if she/he does a good job.
And I think we can see that we’re kind of trained to think in terms of EARNING that “tip” — that “gratuity”. So, it would made sense that our natural thing would be to want to EARN God’s favorable eye toward us. But I’m telling ya… we got it all wrong.
God’s favor cannot and is not earned. And that’s what pisses most “christians” off… Any brother or small band of brothers, who prattle on about GRACE… they get attacked left and right be the James Gang.
The regular preachers… know that GRACE, (God’s favor bestowed on those who deserve the opposite) would lead to a universal reconciliation . If “GRACE” really means GRACE.
The know it innately. Because, if God saves one poor sucker, who deserves the opposite — out of grace — then He MUST save all — out of grace… or else “grace” is not really grace. It’s earned.
The “tip” you leave at the restaurant, was “earned” to some degree, generally speaking. So, we, in our human way of thinking, want to “earn” God’s kind favors, and thus we tend to mix law and works and GRACE.
I was thinking of the Freewill Chick recently and how she said she would not come back to our show because we didn’t let her get a word in edgewise. (Words to that effect.) We (or “I”) did let her speak plenty, but we just didn’t cotton to her James Gang message. Thus she was all butt hurt that she was casting her pearls before swine, so to speak.
But listen… Paul and the saints in the first century had the same problem. In fact, there was a HUGE fight in Antioch when the James Gang showed up there and tried to enslaved the saints in that “works” crap.
And Paul says “we don’t even let them blather on for one hour before we shut their mouths” — ya know, words to that effect. Here’s the actual text:
4 Yet, it was because of the false brethren who were smuggled in, who came in by the way to spy out our freedom which we have in Christ Jesus, that they shall be enslaving us-5 to whom, not even for an hour do we simulate by subjection, that the truth of the evangel should be continuing with you.6 Now from those reputed to be somewhat-what kind they once were is of no consequence to me (God is not taking up the human aspect)-for to me those of repute submitted nothing.7 But, on the contrary, perceiving that I have been entrusted with the evangel of the Uncircumcision,
I’m thinking… if you don’t know these guys are from the James Gang… you let them speak, after all, they seem to be regular ole brothers… but in less than ONE HOUR you can tell, they know nothing ‘about grace… they’re the law and works crowd. And you shouldn’t put up with that crap.
Those guys are not “for the laud of the glory of His grace” see Ephesians… 1:6.
Those guys are “for the laud of the glory of themselves and all they did to help God get to where He wanted to get to… they “seek to establish their own righteousness.” (Is that in Romans somewhere?)

Ok, we’ll pick this up later.
Grace to you.
Grace is humbling, when you come to realize it’s meaning and import. Very humbling.
5:04 a.m.
24º out there.

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Good Morning dear saints.
It’s 23º outside… but it should get up to 39º later, so some of the snow will melt off.

I would have started earlier, but I got sucked in to watch one of yesterday’s Ace Theo shows… this one: Monday Morning T.G.I.G (THANK GOD IT’S GRACE).
If you missed it… it was a good one. About grace.

Since were on the theme of GRACE… #15 in our pratting…
Let’s call this section #15 part B.

15. B.

One of the strange and wonderful things about GRACE is that we, for the most part don’t see it or get what God is doing these days.
We come along into the faith, we grab the Bible, and we don’t realized that within the Bible’s pages… within it’s grand story, the whole plan, the whole itinerary has changed — right before our eyes.
We read all the Old Testament, and most of the New Testament, and there’s all this promise of JUDGMENT — scary judgment — fires, quakes, locust, lake of fire, floods, you name it, God is “gonna judge” sin.
And it sure looks like God has forgotten all about that judgment thing. There is so much corruption, sin and death going on in our world today. Sodom and Gomorrah thing, Noah’s pre-flood thing… Maybe God just forgot all about giving evil mankind a big spanking.
Well… I’m just here to remind you that what we see right now in God’s operations… is GOD’S ADMINISTRATION OF GRACE. It’s a SECRET thing. God doesn’t mind dealing in SECRETS.
And man, oh man, ain’t it somethin’ ??? See Ephesians 3:2-7

Chapter 3
1 On this behalf I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you, the nations –
2 since you surely hear of the administration of the grace of God that is given to me for you,
3 for by revelation the secret is made known to me (according as I write before, in brief,
4 by which you who are reading are able to apprehend my understanding in the secret of the Christ,
5 which, in other generations, is not made known to the sons of humanity as it was now revealed to His holy apostles and prophets): in spirit
6 (IN SPIRIT) the nations are to be joint enjoyers of an allotment, and a joint body, and joint partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus, through the evangel
7 of which I became the dispenser, in accord with the gratuity of the grace of God, which is granted to me in accord with His powerful operation.
So, God is not in the business right now of punishing sin and sinners… now, God is administering GRACE. And what a shock. It has to do, with how God is going to finish up his eonian purpose… and this administration matches and mirrors the final eon of time called “the eon of the eons”. That’s when GRACE will really shine. Right now, we’re getting a prequel of it all.

We’ll have to pick this up later. The subject is rich and deep.

Grace to you.
7:17 a.m. (end)

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6:52 a.m. — 20º out, but it’s suppose to get up to 40º today.
Snow should melt off nicely. But tomorrow, looks like we’re getting more snow.
Wed, Dec 22, 2021

Grace and peace to you Dear One,

You know we have lots of opposers. I call them “the James Gang”. They’re a rough bunch. Mean mostly. They come right out of the pages of Dr. Eric Berne’s book “The Games People Play”.

They know nothing of the grace of God and the evangel of grace brought to us by Paul. They mostly want to have something over on you. That’s why they are so attracted to this “confess your sins” business.
The so-called “sinner’s prayer” starts out “confessing” you are a sinner, etc. Paul’s first prayer to the Son of God was: WHO ARE’T THOU LORD. — Way different than the so-called sinners’ prayer. And who, pray tell, was a worse sinner than Saul of Tarsarsus?
So, they certainly want to play “NOW I’VE GOT YOU, YOU SON OF A BITCH”…

(NIGYYSOB-according to Berne’s book)

But Paul recommend’s we deal GRACIOUSLY with others… as God has dealt graciously with us. Wow… that causes us to change our entire way of thinking about things.
Is God keeping tabs? Is God making a “list and checking it twice?” — NO boys and girls… your tab has been paid and God is sooooo happy to see you enjoying yourself. God is not reckoning your sins against you… as revealed in II COR 5:18-19.
Hang on… I’ll get the quote:
Got it…

18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,

19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.

20 For Christ, then, are we ambassadors, as of God entreating through us. We are beseeching for Christ’s sake, “Be conciliated to God!”

21 For the One not knowing sin, He makes to be a sin for our sakes that we may be becoming God’s righteousness in Him.

Can you see how powerful these words are?

Contrast that to the James Gang message that YOU MUST do this and that and the other thing, or there will be hell to pay.
But we, we who know the evangel of GRACE… we should be gracious with others as God has been gracious with us. To a great degree, we don’t keep tabs. We don’t expect sinless, perfection, so we don’t even look for it… instead, we’re looking to God’s work in Christ’s cross — and THAT is what makes sense to our little minds. — God gives us faith about these things.
Why do those in the James Gang want you to “confess your sins”? And why does a catholic priest have a “confessional”. If you go to the confessional, and yak about your wrongdoings, you’re still all focused on YOURSELF… I don’t think that will accomplish much, to tell you the truth.

Morning Michael… nice to see ya.

What if… What if you “saw God”… instead of looking at yourself all the time? What if you saw God’s big picture? What if you saw God’s purpose and plan? Why do you have to “confess your sins?” It’s like you can’t stop talking about yourself. Sheesh.

I think the ultimate “confession” we have in the Bible is Judas hanging himself and falling headlong down that ravine and his guts spilling out. Is that a pretty picture of confession? Nope.
Listen, one day, in God’s purpose, He’s gonna fix all this stuff… and one day… in God’s timing, we’re gonna go up to Judas, and bring him some cookies, and say “Hey Pal, you were a stinker for betraying the Lord Jesus like that, but you know, without you, we wouldn’t have a RISEN SAVIOR… so, thank you sooooooo much for your part in this… we’re all so lucky God choose you to help bring this about.”
But Judas’ story IS OUR STORY too… Judas wasn’t the only one to put Christ on the cross… we all sent Him there. As, HE DIED FOR (because of) THE SINS OF ALL.
So, when the James Gang comes along, and tries to get your all sucked into guilt and depression and feeling sorry for yourself and sorry for your sins… they’re up to no good, I tell you. Telling you you have a “freewill”… and if you don’t use your “freewill” to do it all just right, there’s “eternal punishment” waiting for you. Those guys are both sick and mean.
As near as I can tell, Paul had to deal with those guys in every letter of his. Maybe in Philemon, he takes a break from battling those SOBs but, from Romans to Timothy, he’s warning us about their shenanigans.
Paul is fighting to make sure we understand the grace of God. Not works. Not law. Not you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours. No. Paul is fighting to reveal the plan and purpose of God. Centered in the cross of Christ… and all that it accomplishes both IN time and BEYOND time. The cross saves Adam, Pharaoh and all those Noah left behind. And the cross saves you and me and all those yet to come. It IS the work of God.
No one gets out of here alive — (a song from the Doors)
No one remains dead, when death is abolished — (a song from I COR 15:25)

Keep in mind, we’re going on about GRACE because, grace is the favor of God, shown and lavished on someone, anyone, who deserves the opposite of favor. And THAT is weird. That is not man’s idea. That is not “normal” thinking. Normal thinking is to reward those who deserve it. Perfectly understandable. But to reward those who deserve to be smashed, punished, whacked? What is God thinking? He must have some big, secret plan going on that He’s not revealed to us yet… right? Don’t we have a right to know what He’s up to????
Now get this… elsewhere in the scriptures we are told that “God is not partial”… YIKES… we know what that means… that means IF God shows GRACE to one poor slob… HE MUST show grace to all us poor slobs… and that means all slobs are going to heaven… and it’s gonna piss of the James Gang ‘cause they suspect they’re the only ones good enough to get there. And they suspect THEY are the gatekeepers to the whole shebang.


So, the James Gang comes along, and they want you to confess your sins… admit you were wrong, promise to do better, etc. And then they’ve got you over a barrel. It’s both gaslighting and blackmail. YIKES.
Paul comes along and demands no such thing. He’s teaching men everywhere to REVER GOD APART FROM LAW.
Hang on, let me find the reference.

ACTS 18…
12 Now, Gallio being proconsul of Achaia, the Jews with one accord assaulted Paul, and they led him to the dais,
13 saying that, “Aside from the law, is this man inducing men to revere God.”
14 Now Paul being about to open his mouth, Gallio said to the Jews, “If, indeed, it were some injury or wicked knavery, O Jews, I might, on that account tolerate you.
15 Yet if they are questions concerning a word, and names, and a law of yours, you see to it! A judge of these I am not intending to be!”
See… they ASSAULTED Paul… and said “aside from the law, is this man inducing men to revere God” — oh how horrible… how shocking… we must do something…
I’ll tell you what I’m gonna do… I’m gonna close up shop and go make some breakfast.
Thanks for joining me. Sterling, Mike S. Eagle… etc.
Grace to you. We’ll catch up later.
7:46 a.m.

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Thursday, Dec 23 — whoa… 2 days before Christmas… yikes… I’m not sure I’m ready.
5:46 a.m.
KSL says it’s 43 degrees out there, but I think it’s colder.

Regarding that 95 theses thing, I’m suppose to be complaining about the current sorry state of the so-called christian church.
But this morning. No. This morning… I’m gonna chat ‘bout something’ different.


A most excellent morning prayer:
“Good morning Father, I love what you’ve done with the place.”
If you’re still in a chatty mood, you can add:
“I love the garden of Eden, I love what you did with Christ on Calvary’s hill, I love the Great White Throne, And I love You becoming All in all.”
You know, there’s plenty of time for prayers that are of the “please help me” type. — I’m thinking God kinda yawns at those prayers, they are after all, a “dime a dozen.”

(Speaking of a “dime a dozen” — we’ll soon have to retire that cliche as even the so-called “Dollar Store” is now charging at least $1.25 for everything. Who the hell knows what a “dime” is any more. Thanks Central Banks, you’re doing a wondrous job of printin’ money thus far.)

Oh, yeah… back to prayer…
Even Jesus, while on Earth, taught “give us this day our daily bread” (etc.) — so, I suspect, bothering God with your own personal requests is to be expected. But what if we can get to the place to where we realize that God does take care of all… can we move into a place to where we appreciate all that He is doing and will do… and that He is doing all. ???
If we look at the cross with any sense of wisdom, we can see that most awful thing on Earth… and we can see the most wonderful thing on Earth.
The cross is a picture — God’s answer to our hearts pounding.

It reveals God’s purpose and plan, both for His Son and for YOU… and all creation.
God says “Excuse me, but I have heard your complaints and I have an answer — BEHOLD.”
And thus we stare at the cross and we say “I don’t get it.” And we say, “How is this an answer?” And then 3 days pass. And our hearts are humbled. And the light dawns upon us.
Death’s fate is sealed. At the cross.
Death’s power us nullified. At the cross.
Death’s defeat is guaranteed. At the cross.

As I see it, every prayer, in which we plead with God to help us… is a prayer for death’s defeat.
Sickness? A prayer for death’s defeat!
A prayer for more money? A prayer for death’s defeat!
A prayer for safe traveling mercies? A prayer for death’s defeat!
A prayer for luck? Yep, a prayer for death’s defeat!

You see, death is our enemy. It approaches slowly and in a hurry. We know it’s our enemy. But according to Paul, it is also God’s enemy. So, you might ask, “How is it that death is God’s enemy?” God is the creator of life, right? I think I have an answer. I believe God is happy with life. Thrilled, in fact. But death is the opposite of life. And if God brings His creation to life, it grieves Him to end that life and return it to death. So, the whole plan and purpose of God is to put death to death one day. And the plan has begun. Have you seen what happened on the cross? Death’s fate is sealed.

6:16 a.m.
Time to refill the coffee cup.

6:23 a.m.

So, God has this big plan. This big idea. And if the only thing we look at is the Garden of Eden, and it’s disaster, our hearts are crestfallen. Every philosophy, every false religion, every manmade idea is built (at its core) the idea of getting back to Eden. Back before the fall.
But what if we see Eden, and its tragedy as “the perfect setup”??? The perfect setup for the cross.
The cross not only answers that story in the past (Eden) but is the perfect answer for all the stories now and in the future.
And what if the cross is the predominate feature of the “Great White Throne” judgment???
I know the modern day, grifting organization we call the “church” says the “Great White Throne” (GWT) judgment is where the sinner is assigned to endless conscious punishment. But, God went to a lot of trouble to put on this “cross” thing. Why would the GWT outshine the cross? It can’t. The cross is the GREATEST of all God’s judgments. Greater than the “great white throne” judgment. It must overshadow it and put it in proper perspective. We’re talking about the accomplishments of the Son of God’s love !!!!
After all, it’s a “white” throne, and it’s a “lake” of fire, not an “ocean” of fire. A lake is not much trouble. And “white”… that’s an attractive thing, don’t cha know.
So, we’re trying to throw some light on how we can approach prayer. Begging and pleading for this and that, is ok, I suppose. But as we grow, in the grace and knowledge of our Lord, why not do less begging and pleading and more appreciating — appreciating the things of God, like the EONIAN PURPOSE OF GOD. ???
The cross is God’s answer to our ultimate prayer. Our ultimate prayer is for the end of death and death’s train. And the cross, for us, is God’s answer… it’s LIFE and Life’s train.
God is patient and kind, says Paul.
And in patience… God is not in a big hurry to reveal that death’s fate is sealed. God gives some of us the eyes to see what was accomplished on the cross. But most look at it and quickly turn their eyes away. Either they are blinded by God, or they are fearful of what they see. Either way, “not for all is the faith” says Paul.
But, if we can see the cross and it’s accomplishments… or at least some of them… can our morning prayer be: GOOD MORNING FATHER, I LOVE WHAT YOU’VE DONE WITH THE PLACE. ???
It just seems right to want to “see” God in all things.
If you don’t see God in all things, you’ll just revert to complaining and murmuring. And no one wants to hang out with a complaining brat.
If I can’t convince you to see God… and curtail that complaining altogether… at least you can move in that direction. You can begin by saying”

Now, that ought to be a good prayer.
Are you chuckling, yet? You should be.

All is of God. Says Paul. And death, is the last thing God will address as He becomes All in all. And that is when all our prayers will be gloriously answered. Oh my.

Check it out: — especially verse 26 and 28

I COR 15…
20 (Yet now Christ has been roused from among the dead, the Firstfruit of those who are reposing.
21 For since, in fact, through a man came death, through a Man, also, comes the resurrection of the dead.
22 For even as in Adam all are dying… thus also in Christ shall all be vivified.
23 Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ’s in His presence;
24 thereafter the consummation(:), whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power.
25 For He must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy is being abolished: death.
27 For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him.
28 Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all.)

Amen, Grace to you. Thanks for joining me for a few thoughts.
6:55 a.m.
41º outside.


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Friday morning, Dec 24th, 2021
7:22 a.m.
Ya hit the wrong key and all computer hell breaks loose.
Hi Lawrence.
37º out there… the snow is still melting off, but a lot of it is gone. I can see grass on the front lawn.
High today, supposedly 42º

Now, with this little exercise, we’re suppose to be complaining about the organized “church” in the world. But what if we explore some of the “good” we can see there?
Sure, “churches” preach guilt and shame, and tribalism, and stuff… and sure some “churches” have started wars with other groups, even other “churches”… And sure, some folks have gotten so depressed from the message they get at church they commit suicide. And sure, if you listen to those guys, you won’t see God in a grand way… you’ll just “see” a petty god, who takes vengeance — eternal vengeance — on all those who don’t get with the program.

(From the side chat: Brother Lawrence says he’s been out of the “church” ‘bout 25 years. I say HOT DOG. Me too.)

So, it’s easy enough to find fault with those guys. But, ya know… all is of God. And God uses pretty much any thing and everything to advance His purpose. He used Judas. Pharaoh. Joseph’s brothers. He used Saul for “christ’s sake”.
And wouldn’t cha know it… He uses the Mormons, the Baptists, the Pentacostals, the Megachurches, the Catholics… He uses them all for His purposes.
Keep in mind, Paul tells us “Not for all is the faith.” (II THESS 3:2) — So, God is not about to reveal the secret to just any and every one in this administration of grace. But, God brings some of us along… and He brings some of us, out of organized church.
Even those who “come out of organized church” — like the Witness Lee guys, the Gene Edwards guys, and all the home churches across the world… it’s just very rare for them to give up the 4 doctrines they learned at “church”. Yeah, they meet in homes, around some brother’s living room… pray, read the scriptures, talk, have a pot luck dinners… but they never dump those four devilish teachings:
1. Trinity.
2. Immortal soul.
3. Eternal Conscious Punishment for the “wicked”.
4. Freewill.

I’m telling you… if they head down that road of challenging those four things… all their “sister” churches will hear about it and cut off fellowship… give them the “right foot” of fellowship.

You’re right Lawrence. We should not forget the TITHE TEACHING. — I’ve seen some of these home churches, NOT talk about tithes… but they aren’t against it either. It’s just NOT discussed. They’d never say it’s a FALSE TEACHING… and should NOT be taught… So, on the whole even the house church movement is full of poop. Nothing real except the outward appearances have been changed.
So, IS there anything good there?
Well, Paul says, “some are preaching Christ out of envy and strife.” Hang on, let me get the quote. It’s in Philippians.

That’s kind of hard on the eyes… let me change it:
15 Some, indeed, are even heralding Christ because of envy and strife, yet some because of delight also;

16 these, indeed, of love, having perceived that I am located for the defense of the evangel,

17 yet those are announcing Christ out of faction, not purely, surmising to rouse affliction in my bonds.

18 What then? — Moreover, seeing that, by every method, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is being announced, I am rejoicing in this also, and will be rejoicing nevertheless.

19 For I am aware that, for me, this will be eventuating in salvation through your petition and the supply of the spirit of Jesus Christ,

20 in accord with my premonition and expectation, that in nothing shall I be put to shame, but with all boldness, as always, now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether through life or through death.

21 For to me to be living is Christ, and to be dying, gain.

1. From v.15… some are heralding “Christ” out of envy… and strife… I’m thinking… how can you do that? How can you “herald” Christ out of envy? — Maybe… just thinking… maybe.. remember those scalawags in the book of Acts, who were casting out demons in the name of “Jesus whom Paul preaches”… and the demons said, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know but WHO ARE YOU?” And then pounced on them. Does that throw light on this???
Wait… if you’re envious of all the attention they’re getting as ambassadors of Christ.. (and you want attention)… then could those guys (the James Gang) be envious of that? After all, Paul, the prisoner, was more famous than they?
So, let’s think about Joel Osteen, or Joyce Meyers. Could we say that they are “heralding Christ” out of envy and strife? I know a lot of bible teachers, just want to “belong”… and the desire to “belong” is a strong motivator.
— reading Lawrence’s notes:
Honestly… I’m not sure I get Paul’s meaning when He says some are heralding Christ out of envy and strife… and he was OK with it, at least Christ is being heralded.
Well, I guess, talking with all these “church” people is a lot easier… since they are all somewhat familiar with Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. And they’ve heard of Paul (Like those demons). So, it could be better than starting from scratch in presenting the word of truth.
Like Annanias and Sappahria (sp?) who took Appolos aside and showed him a more correct way… since Apolos was only teaching the truth up to the Baptism of John.
Maybe we can be grateful for all these churchanity people, as showing them a more correct way would be easier.
Let’s be honest — I was “churchanity” before I peeled out of there and joined up with the Gene Edwards crew. And I was totally eat up with the 4 false doctrines mentioned above, when I read my first book from the Concordant Publishing Concern. (Eternal Torment VS Universal Reconciliation)
And Lawrence is right — FIVE FALSE DOCTRINES.
God brings us all along… and it may not seem like much to others but our own personal journey is AN EPIC JOURNEY to us. We are aware, of our steps and mis-steps. And when we look back, we’re sweetly grateful that God lead us down this path as oppose to that path.
I’m thinking here… can we say that Martin Luther, the original “95 Theses” guy… was preaching Christ out of envy and strife???? — Well, when you learn of the blood-letting he did to Zwingly and the Swiss Anabaptists…. You might think it’s easy to accuse Luther of bad motives. But, I’m old enough to see that bad motives come along (sometimes) AFTER good motives. I saw it in Gene Edwards.
Gene, like Luther, wanted to establish a movement that was more aligned with the truth… and once the movement got traction, Gene became somewhat unbearable. Headstrong. Self-absorbed.


Listen… a lot of good came out of the Church in Isla Vista.. but plenty of folks just had to leave Gene’s work, because — you know… you just run out of money to buy new wading boots all the time, as the poop gets deeper sometimes.
God bless Gene Edwards, and Martin Luther, and all those who preach Christ out of envy and strife. I guess we need them boys. But sometimes, you’ve got to shake your head and move on.

SIDE NOTE: Lawrence, were YOU in the church in Isla Vista?
I was there from about 77 to 81.
Be right back… got to refill the coffee…
8:28 a.m
Howdy DB and St. Tommy.

So… this is weird… Paul says… “yet those are announcing Christ out of faction”
And he’s happy about it… well maybe not happy… but he can see the good in it.
And then this: Moreover, seeing that, by every method, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is being announced, I am rejoicing in this also, and will be rejoicing nevertheless. This Paul guy, I think he’s lost his mind… How can he be “rejoicing” when those yahoo’s out there are preaching “Christ” out of a sour motive? He must see something that I don’t see yet. Like maybe “all is of God”… maybe?
I think this is item #16 in our charge-ahead to bitch about 95 things regarding the Catholic Church and their step children the protestants, including the “home church” movement.

I’m telling you guys… brothers, sisters, inquirers, one and all, I don’t think I made in real “spiritual” progress in my life until I started UNLEARNING the trinity, immortal soul, freewill, and endless conscious punishment (plus tithing)….
It was THEN… that I began to BELIEVE GOD… and trust God concerning the outcome of it all.
Brother Lawrence says I still have a lot of UNlearning to do… to which I say “amen” and “bring it on”.
Now… regarding the 1st century church as opposed to the modern-day monster…. They met in the living room, at the park, on Solomon’s porch… etc. The did not have a building to pay for and pay taxes on … so they could be mobil and disappear in the middle of the night at the drop of a sword. So, the hang-loose meeting style was conducive to a back and forth that we cannot see today in our formal churches… with one yahoo up there in the front preaching away. Well… if we did as they did in the 1st century… we’d have a great deal more variety in our “doctrines” and understandings, and our spiritual journey. But every church out there, and most home churches teach those 4 (5) things right along with the whole camp of monkey(s)

  1. Trinity, is babble. No one can understand it. And it’s designed to make the preacher sound like he knows more that you. Kind of like when you meet someone in a given industry, (medical or high-tech) and they start using insider lingo… and you don’t know what they are talking about but you assume they do.
  2. And “freewill”??? It’s the most overrated blathering discussed in any conversation, religious or secular. “Free” will? Free of what? We are all influenced by many things… even the “craving” for sugar is quite often because you’ve got parasites in your body demanding you eat more and more crap. So are you eating those doughnuts out of “freewill” or the tapeworms releasing hunger hormones in your body and brain????
    Freewill my ass. We all have a will. But it’s not “free” if causality and influence.
  3. Immortal Soul… myth. Can’t be proven. Based on hope and “dweams” … Now, we can’t “prove” that the resurrection from the dead is our future… but we can at least “have a pattern of sound words”… and the scriptures say our soul dies. But the promise is the resurrection. So, if the “church” pretends to love the Bible… let them quote “The Soul That Sinneth, It Shall Die.” Not that lingo from other religions. Let them teach “soul sleep”… in light of the promises of the future resurrection.
    I realize that both are not provable yet… but, we want to match our belief with the lingo of the Bible, not the lingo of wild ass religions that come out of left field.
    Christ was raised from the dead. If the “soul” never dies, why bother with the resurrection? It’s useless. So when Aunt Martha dies… and you’re invited to speak at her funeral… tell the folks, that one day, God will raise all, including old sweet Martha… at the great day… don’t be telling the audience that “Martha is in a better place.” That’s bullshit. Martha is dead. Her body will be returned to the soil. Her soul will return to the Sheol/hades/unseen realms from which it came. It was not conscious before, it’s not going to be conscious now. Consciousness is a result of The spirit joining the body, creating “the soul”.
    The RESURRECTION is our hope… our message… We see it all in Christ’s work on the cross. Immortal soul business is not a “hope”.. it’s mythology that actually destroys and rips apart the evangel of Christ and the evangel of grace.
  4. Endless conscious punishment??? How can the “church” buy into that tripe? If it’s true.. then God must be punishing Himself endlessly.


Regarding “soul” and “spirit”… it’s not proper to conflate them. The soul is more or less our 5 senses… our consciousness. There is not consciousness in our “spirit” as it is just the breath/wind of God.
Regarding Endless Conscious punishment… it’s just a half-thought out myth. If God is one… and all is out of Him, through Him and for Him… we must leave that notion behind, and pursue twooth… as best as we can. The idea that “God is one” not only defeats the trinity talk… but all the endless hell talk.

5. Now we get to TITHING. — Yes, you can find it in the O.T. but 1st century church was too wild, uncontrolled and always on the move.. and thus the James Gang had a helluva time trying to round up those guys to get them back under the law and paying tithes. But they keep trying. Paul was warning about the James Gang in nearly every letter of his. In Philippians he jokingly calls them “the maimcision” (see chapter 3, verse 2) — get it? In Galatians he wishes “they’d cut themselves off” … get it?
So, tithing is a thing… right… and it’s part of the deception. And if God can bring you to the place where you see that any one of these 5 things is a bunch of hooey — then you’re making progress… and you might even put on Christ, sooner or later. But if you get rid of all 5 things… man oh man… get rid of them and still “believe God”… you’re making some real progress and for sure, you’re going to get kicked out of “church”. … like it or not.

So… is there good in the modern day church? Yeah, like it or not… God brings many of us through those doors, and then back out again. And never forget, “all is of God.” It’s a tough, big concept, but twoooooooo none the less. See Romans 11:36.

Grace to you.
Until next time.
9:22 a.m.
39º out there.


The Ace Theological Company’s 95 Thesis

The Ace Theological Company’s
95 Thesis

SIDE NOTE: I usually type these up in the morning on my “ace theo” channel on youtube.

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Good morning.
Friday, Dec 10th, 2021

In the spirit of Martin Luther, I thought we might find 95 things to complain about… regarding the church, — that is the modern day “christian” church… regarding those who “attend church” and possible solutions for the “curious”.
Now, I would say “solutions for the saints of God who want the truth” but for now, I’ll say the “curious” as… if you’re not curious about things, you’re never going to question the current status of things and never gonna see that somethin’ ain’t right.
Hang on, I’m thinking.

  1. Now, it doesn’t take much to see that something is not right with the world. However, if you take an interest in spiritual things, and the things of God, you’ll also have to conclude that something is not right with that world too. So, where do we begin?
  2. How about with “tithes” ??? That should piss the church leaders off plenty. So, yes, you can find something about tithes (giving 10% of your income or wealth to the priests of the Old Testament Jewish world) — something about tithes but only in the Old Testament. It’s not a New Testament thing. And if we want to call ourselves “New Testament believers”… why, you just might have to march down the “scary” road of shucking this tithing thing… and it’s not really “scary” for you, it’s scary for the minister of your church. You see, his income is at stake. And he’s not going to like it when you start unraveling the whole edifice he and his boys have built around this “God” thing and this “church” thing. And if you pick at one little straw, the whole dang thing might fall apart. And guess what, “tithing” is a big deal to the edifice.
    But these guys need more than 10%… So, over the years, they do things like sell pew rents, they sell absolutions, (forgiveness), they come up with teachings about “planting seeds to see it grow” (in other words give them money and your blessings will grow.)
    The wealth of the “church” is huge. They’ve got real estate all over the world. And buildings. And campgrounds. And factories. And investments in things like pharmaceutical companies. And lord knows what.
    But it all starts with an entrance fee, called a “tithe”…. Just to get things rolling.
    And remember the ole “Spanish Inquisition” (part of ‘church history’) when they would kill you if you were a “heretic”? Well, get this… you were only accused of being a heretic if you own enough property. And if they wanted your property. If you were just a poor shoemaker, who did not cause any trouble, then your “heretical” belief never mattered to the overlords.
    So, don’t kid yourself, this examination of why things aren’t right surely must begin at the money aspect of the “things of God” (Notice I put it in quotes).
    So, crack open the New Testament, and trace out the money matters. No tithes. No clear rules about money matters at all, really. Take care of the poor, it says. Work so you’ll have something to share, it says. It does say that there are those who will use the evangel for gain — and we’re talking money. One verse says they turn the matters of God into a “vocation”. (See the Concordant Literal New Testament.)
    Now, since money is such a tight subject, we can see why, most churches and christian movements would highjack Old Testament passages in order to accumulate a big pile of dough.
    When Saul bumped into the Lord on the road to Damascus, the message to him was “I’m gonna show you how much you must suffer for my name sake.” — That is not a good marketing message for the church. They ignore that message. They tend to lean on the idea of, “Join us and your troubles are over.” But, Jesus’ message to Saul, proved to be true… he suffered quite a bit. And so do all the saints who come into the faith. Nobody gets out of here unscathed. Sinners suffer, but so do the saints.
    Over the years, there have been millions of believers who said “to hell with it all” when they saw with their own eyes how greedy those ministers were when it came to money and church property and stabbing brothers and sisters in the back.
    The problem is… when the saints are feed up with this crap, and walk away from “church” they are too wounded to even be bothered with God at all. And it takes a miracle of God to bring them back to the faith, in any real and humble way.
    But it does happen. There are saints who walked away from “church” for a great number of reasons, but found their way back to believing God. This is a wondrous thing. This is a beautiful thing. Sometimes, they find their way back to God in a lonely spot on the back porch. Sometimes they find fellow believers who come together apart from the organized thing. But it happens. And it’s sooooo lovely. It is “of God”. (Romans 11:36)
    I think that lonely spot on the back porch, is an invention of God… it’s like the holiest place on Earth. And to tell you the truth… you don’t want to invite too many folks to join your back porch experience, they might ruin it.
    In the New Testament, starting in Acts 7… when Stephen was murdered… and the saints had to hightail it out of town to avoid being next… THAT IS A TRUE CHURCH LIFE EXPERIENCE. It’s not the permanence of the church building, it’s what God is building IN YOU. Patience, endurance, testedness, etc.
    If the church is on the run, you can’t collect “tithes” nor taxes. And there is something about the church being on the run, that has a spiritual element to it. Stephen gets pounded by rocks, stones, and let’s not forget verbal abuse… and the whole church says “I’m out of here”… And note: the word “ecclesia” by itself suggest a temporary assembly.
    So far, we’ve only made two points… “something ain’t right” and “what about tithes”. … We’ll pick up this later and find 95 things to complain about… right? Complaining, you see, is our favorite pastime. Paul actually warns against complaining and murmuring. But what does he know?
    I once use to have coffee with a bunch of fellows at a coffee shop in Salt Lake City. One of the guys who met with us was named “Blake”… and I swear that guy could complain and complain… about everything… traffic, weather, politics… you name it. Well, the boys at the coffee shop started calling him “Bleak” instead of Blake… he got offended and found another coffee shop to go to.
    I hope in this ongoing chat to offer plenty of hope, joy and direction… as well as complain to my hearts content.
    Grace to you.
    7:53 a.m.

    The Ace Theological Company’s
    95 Thesis

Is it Saturday?
December 11th. 7:19 a.m
There’s still snow on the ground from yesterday’s storm.
23º out right now… a high expected of 38º.

Now, we’re trying to map out 95 things we can complain about regarding the church, christians, the current situation and our understanding of it all. We all love to complain, so this should be easy. But let’s hope this exercise brings us closer to God and the truth.
We did 2 points yesterday. Let’s try for at least two more.

  1. Hang on… thinking… one of the big problems in our “christian” world today is that most of the folks involved in “religion” are not serious bible students. They mostly “go to church” on a Sunday, and listen to the preacher prattle on. But they don’t crack open this book that has some 800,000 words to see what it actually says. However, this wouldn’t be a problem, IF the preacher we going on about something reasonable… and revealing God, God’s truth or God’s purpose. But they’re not. Most preachers preach a message that is easily marketable. What are you likely to “buy”… that’s what he’s selling. “Feel-good” messages sell. So, let’s turn the Bible into a “feel-good” message source. Right? Even the so-called “hell fire” preachers have a twist on the hell-fire message to get YOU personally out of the damnation and into the country-club called “heaven”.
    If you’re going to be a serious bible student, it seems to me, you’d want to know not only what it says but also a lot of it’s history… how it came to be, who the authors were, in what circumstance they lived, and other details that might give color to the message of the Bible.
    Most the Bible was written by Jews, for Jews, about the Jews, and concerning the Jews. Which leads us to our favorite section of the Bible that was written by a Jew (Paul) but was written for the gentile boys and girls, about the gentile boys and girls and concerning the gentile boys and girls.
    And if we can get you to see even a sliver of distinction between one side of the Bible and the other side — the circumcision writings vs the uncircumcision writings… we might be on the road to a happier message.
    You see, if you take the Bible and pour all of it into a pot of soup… and try to make a “unified theory” message of it all… what a mess it becomes. Doing that you WON’T have to real model on which to understand much of anything.
    Words have meanings. Words have color. And as A.E. Knoch once said “You cannot have clear thoughts, without a clarified vocabulary.”
    Imagine trying to warn someone about a “fire”… but you don’t have a clarified vocabulary — let’s see.. you have “fire”, “light”, “heat”, “warmth” “glow”, “hot” maybe “see”… all kinds of words that are related to this fire thing… and how will your warning be heeded if you don’t get your vocabulary right.
    I think I get it now, that some Concordant brothers, bible teachers, have pointed out that God confused the languages at the Tower of Babel. — So, God doesn’t mind stringing us along for a while in darkness and confusion. These Concordant Bible Teachers, have actually said that the KJV (King James Version) is “of God” in the sense that God doesn’t mind if we are all confused and messed up at the moment, in this “wicked eon” and “current era” (see Paul’s letters).
    And that would make sense that God confused the tongues at Babel. And God does not want everyone to see the plan at the moment… Even our buddy Paul said in II Thessolians (sp?) chapter 2, verse 3… “NOT FOR ALL IS THE FAITH”.
    If you know that the faith is not for all… that God’s purpose stands… then perhaps you can relax and not care so much about opposers and nay-sayers. I personally think it helps.
    So, we come along and brag that GOD IS THE CREATOR OF ALL… and that this message actually means something… and should give us joy, comfort and peace… Well… the opposers say… “Not so, Ace, God did not create ‘evil’!!!”
    Or, they say “God did not create Satan”… they suggest Satan more or less created himself. (Go ahead, smile, it’s ridiculous, but it’s what they say or infer.)
    So, if we care about God, we should, it seems to me, care about His word.
    His word could be and often is, considered the collection of the 66 books of the Bible. His word, is sometimes said to be His Son as well. “God speaks to us in a Son” says Hebrews 1:1-2. And I suppose we could argue that God speaks to us in spirit as well. Pick your poison. (1) the Bible, (2) His Son (3) or speaking to us in spirit… either way, how smart of God to speak to us at all.
    Not that we’re all good listeners. Most “christians” are not bible students. Most don’t adore His Son nor his accomplishments on the cross… and most folks ignore the nudging of the spirit… so… we’re all LOCKED UP IN STUBBORNESS as Romans 11:32 says.

SIDE NOTE: Someone on the side chat says “so where did evil originate from?”

ANSWER: God created evil — see ISA 45:7.
ANSWER: All is out of God — see Romans 11:36
ANSWER: All is out of God — see II COR 5:18-19

Let’s see if I can get back to my thought… God speaks to us… in the Bible, in His Son, and in Spirit… but God doesn’t mind fogging up our brains and plugging up our ears so we just can’t hear him until it suits His purpose.
Roman 8-9 is all about God choosing… and us NOT choosing. Chapter 9, verse 18 (I think) says “it is not of him that willeth” … wow… we might be able to argue that everything is PERFECT, RIGHT NOW, JUST AS IT IS… so our effort to dig up 95 reasons to complain are silly in the big scope of things. But, we’re having fun so let’s press on.

  1. The failure of “christianity” to properly address bible contradictions.
    There are so many folks who “would be” christians if only you could explain all those verses that seem to contradict other bible verses. And boy are there plenty of them.
    The vast majority of preachers, just ignore it all, and hope you’ll not see any, and thus they don’t dig very deep into the Bible for meaning at all. The just use it as an idea starter to preach some self-help message, or feel-good message… as if the dang book was written by Tony Robbins or Napoleon Hill.
    But, I’ve discovered that a lot of bible contractions DISAPPEAR when you separate Paul’s letters from the rest of the Bible and look at His letters as a unit, not to be mixed up with the rest of it all.
    You see, the destiny of Israel and the destiny of the Gentile boys and girls are not quite the same. Ultimate destiny, sure. But the trains take different tracks along the way… the Jews are to rule the Earth with Christ, during the “day of the Lord”… but the Gentile believers (who come in during this dispensation of grace) will not be on Earth, we will be with Christ in the celestial realms — helping to redeem the celestial beings.

8:10 a.m.
Let’s pick this up tomorrow.
Grace to you.

The Ace Theological Company’s
95 Thesis

Sunday, 7:06. A.M.
Oh good, it’s 37º outside… so the pipes can unthaw.
KSL says it will get up to 44º today.

OK, where were we??

We’re sorting out our gripes with regular christianity… And DB offer to help in his own special way. He said something like “Have ya noticed that there are some 30,000 christian denominations??” And he further said something like, “That proves that christians can’t agree on anything.”

So, let’s use DB’s comment as our jumping IN point:

  1. 30,000 denominations PROVE that God’s operations are still going strong. What do I mean? Well, let’s go back to the Tower of Babel. Let’s say there were 30,000 workers at the Tower of Babel and they were working hot and heavy and strong… Along comes God Himself, to see what’s going on and he says “Hmmmmm.” And He gives them 30,000 different tongues (languages) so that they can’t agree on anything. Get it?
    It seems to me, that all the stories of the Bible, all the different ways God deals with mankind, all the angles He sets up for us, or allows up to imagine we’re setting up for ourselves… they all end in failure. Miserable failure.
    How is the Tower of Babel story any different than the 1,000 year reign of Christ? — They both look good at the beginning, but they both end in failure.
    So, DB comes along and points out that we have before us, some 30,000 christian denominations, and that proves none of it is worth heeding. Well… disagreements are common in any sector of society. Medicine, politics, so-called “science”. Thank God for 30,000 denominations. They’re fun.
    If it’s such a problem, should DB wish to go back before Martin Luther got all the protestant stuff going?
    With all the denominations, shouting “You suck” and “No, you suck.” — it creates a fine medium for the curious to say “Hey, what the hell is going on?” And to crack open the Bible itself to see is there are any answers that may have been missed.
    When I was about 17 years old (1970?), my grandparents moved to Clinton, N.C. I went to visit. The house right next door was more or less abandoned. Empty. Not locked up. Just empty. Perfect for a kid to want to “explore”. Well, I was looking around in that old house and found a little booklet — an argument between some preacher who apparently got kicked out of the 7th Day Adventist Church… over an argument concerning GRACE. And this preacher was giving a really good breakdown about how he was right, and the 7th Day guys were wrong about GRACE.
    Apparently he was for it, and they were again’ it.
    I’ve never been in a 7th Day church in my life. But I was THRILLED to find and read this little book. You see, just 3 years earlier I had “become a christian”… by going up to the front of the Pentacostal Holiness Church and saying some prayer, and thus the journey began.
    But when I read this printed argument between the “booted out” pastor and the remaining organized church called “7th Day”.. I was pleased as pie… “Whoa” I said to myself, “there CAN be disagreements?” I didn’t even know I was hungry for the truth… and this little book in an abandoned house, lit my fire.
    Now all these years later. I too am arguing for GRACE.
    Screw those James Gangers.
    So, it seems to me that 30,000 denominations is just peachy. If God did not confuse the languages we’d really have a mess on our hands.
    Paul, in his messages to the ecclesias, wants us to come to the unity of the faith. But no one is saying that all these organized churches, clones and knock-offs of the old catholic institution is the true ecclesia of God. They’re just another sky-rise, that’s not going to amount to much. An embarrassment in the long run.
    1. Ok, I was just mentioning some old dude who was arguing with the 7th Day church about GRACE, he was for it and they were against it. — Well, how ‘bout we go down this road… if you want to know who is in the ecclesia of God, how about seeing if they are GRACIOUS???
      You see, the proud and cocky, will not be so gracious. They will be conceited. And vain. If you really have the skinny on God and His purpose and candor, — it’s seems to me, you’ll be more gracious that all of ‘em.
      I live among the Mormons. And when they are young, like young married couples, with kids, up and coming… they tend to be quite self-righteous. Not gracious with outsiders and “sinners”. But as the years progress… I’ve seen their adult kids or teenage kids… get pregnant, get in trouble with the law, end up in jail… and lo and behold, these self-righteous Mormons are humbled and have a milder tongue.
      Hang on… I’ve got to get the coffee started.
      7:48 a.m.
    2. In all my complaining about churchianity, I don’t want to stray too far away from the idea that WE WANT TO SEE GOD.
      Remember those boys who came up to Phillip and said to him, “We would see Jesus.” — KJV. Well, that’s how I feel about the churches.. and you can see plenty of manly things, and worldly things and demonic things in the modern day churches, all said to be “of god”… but you know, something ain’t right.
      Back in the 1970’s I was so tickled to be a part of the “Rock Church” in Virginia Beach, VA. It was one of the first “mega-churches” to show up, right out of the “Jesus Movement” of the 60’s and 70’s.
      Dick Gourly was one of the Bible teachers every Sunday, at the Rock Church. A lovely man. He opened up his own to wayward teens struggling to find their way. He and his family were a real “rock” to many of us at that time.
      Well, Dick showed up one Sunday morning to teach his class at the Rock Church, and there was ANOTHER teacher… standing there… teaching his class…. And Brother Gourly was shocked, and puzzled. No one told him. He was just replaced without word. Turns out the new Sunday school teacher was a building contractor, and the Rock Church was trying to curry favor with him to get a good price on expanding the building of the Rock Church.
      Dick Gourly was wounded. I was too, just seeing the back-stabbing games organized churches can and do play… it ain’t right.
      So, we’re on a journey to “SEE GOD” … and we’re looking all around to see God in humanity… to see God in organized religion… to see God in nature… to see God in our loneliness… to see God in our suffering… to see God in the scriptures…
      You can… you can see God… and you can see ugly too. Do you want to look long and hard at ugly, or do you want to caste your gaze at the creator of all?
      I think God has this grand plan for us all so that we get a good glimpse of the ugly, so that, later on, He can show beauty. The first Adam, was ugly. The Last Adam, was lovely. The first man, was ugly, the Second Man, was lovely. The first tree in the garden, was ugly, the second tree, upon which the Son of God was hanged, was lovely.
      Hopefully, we don’t spend all our lives focusing on the rotten of this world… may God, our Father, give us the eyes to see His plan, His purpose, His secret. We’ll pick this up again, next time.
      Thank you for spending some time with me.
      We’ll do an open hang out, here about noon my time (Mountain) that would be 2 p.m. EST.
      Grace to you.
      8:12 a.m.

      The Ace Theological Company’s
      95 Thesis

      Monday Morning.
      7:01 a.m.
      Snow’s still on the ground.
      Road and sidewalks are clear.
      43º out, slight chance of rain.

Good morning dear ones,
I have a big thought for you this morning. It’s not a thought I can be proud of … nor can you… but it’s big… here it is…

  1. I’m quite sure, I don’t have the right view or understanding of God and His Son. Here I am chasing 70 years on this Earth, and my view and understanding of God and His Son has change dramatically a dozen times. — The first few times my understanding of God and spiritual matters changed, I was not a happy camper. The change did not occur without a fight from me. I WAS right, don’t cha see… And I saw that I was right until I saw that I was gravely mistaken. So, I’m finally comfortable with this view… that I’m probably wrong about things still. And because “I’m wrong” — use to be wrong and still am wrong… ‘bout something… I can point my crooked finger at what we see as “the church” (you know that big monstrosity that dominates the airwaves and infects our minds with clap…). The “church”… the thing with a tax-exempt status, and a military organized structure, and bosses and peons, and a harpy behind the pulpit. Yeah, it’s a male, but a harpy nonetheless.
    This idea was impressed upon me the other day when we (on this show) read the introductions of A. E. Knoch to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John in Knoch’s commentary of the New Testament. — Oh my god… Knoch was totally in love with Jesus, the Son of God. And you could see it in the words of his commentary. You don’t have to read the whole commentary, just read his intro to each of those four “gospels”. He says things like “In this book we see Jesus as royalty, in this book we see Jesus as the servant, in this book we see Jesus as the healer, in this book we see Jesus as the logos of God”… words to that effect. — Having been a “christian” since 1967 and having read many books on the Bible, I confess that I was shocked and awed at Knoch’s words “we see Jesus”… the devotion came through… most of christianity does not have such a love of Jesus, God or His word. Christianity loves christianity.
  2. They (christianity) argue from a self-love prospective… They don’t see God and His Son foremost in the story… no… it’s all about YOU and WHAT YOU MUST DO. The Baptists, argue that YOU must be baptized. The Pentacostals argue that YOU must speak in tongues. The rest of them, maybe you can’t quite put your finger on what they want YOU to immediately DO… it’s you get it, that, according to them, it’s really all about YOU. And what you DO.
    So, in my confession that I don’t have the right view of things… or that it’s not quite right… I feel a great peace about the matter. You see, God is the creator of all. And God is the author and finisher of my faith. Yours too. It’s God’s responsibility to bring us all along. I feel sorry for God…it’s a big job. I wouldn’t want it.
    So, we have “the Rock Church”, the “Grace Church”, the “Freewill Baptist Church”, the Mormons, the “independent Church”, the “Church of God”, the “Church of Christ”… and the list goes on. You can tell from the NAME they choose they’ve got a “thing”… and what is that “thing”???? Why, it’s in the name, can’t cha see?
    Now since we pretend to be bible students, is it allowed to ask… did the 1st century believers pick out names like this? They were “called” “christians” by the towns’ folk, but they did not call themselves anything. And it just seems weird that all these “church” groups pick out a name that suits them. But it ain’t right, I tell you. It just smacks of — hijacking the faith.
    Hijacking it and packaging it so you can sell something.
    Paul warns about this kind of thing… he speaks of “the systematization of the deception” (CLNT)— So, it’s not just the deception… it the ability of man? Satan? The dark side? To make a SYSTEM of it all.
    So… if we walk away from the “system” of the deception, where do we go? — It’s scary. The walk might get a little lonely. But what is truth? Is it worth the loneliness?
    I say YES… Truth is a great companion. And what is truth? Why, we just might answer “God is love”. Are you smiling yet? It is a fine place to start your epic journey… GOD IS LOVE… sure does answer a lot of questions… questions of harmony, pain, joy, confusion, and so forth. God is love, is a fine, fine, place to start. And maybe end as well.
  3. Another problem we all can find with the organized church is that they make it easy to pick on them. Since they build an edifice, you can find them, tax them, knock on their door, beg money from them, look to them for help, and even lock their members inside the church and light it on fire… Governments have done that ya know. The brits did that to the colonies. The yankees did that to the Southerners. The feds did that at Waco. So, is the systematization of the deception worth it? You tell me.
    I see much more advantage in pursuing God on your back porch than in joining a church. After all, we want to see God. And on your back porch, the view is clearer… in church, the chaos and confusion reigns.

OK… I gotta go.
We’ll pick this up later.
Thank you so much for joining me.
I’m trying… to see God… with you.
Grace and peace to you.
7:46 a.m.


The justification of all or the reconciliation of all????


  1. Since you fancy yourself to be some sort of crackerjack with the Bible… an “ace” if you will… I was wondering… if you could answer a question for me.
  2. The question is…
    which comes first—
    The justification of all
    or the reconciliation of all????

A very important question as I see it….

You see many “christians” are so concerned with dates and times… you know… like “when the rapture is gonna happen, and all that…

Well… I think this is a fine question to ask…
Which comes first —
The justification of all?
Or the reconciliation of all?

Both are taught in the scriptures… right?
Romans 5:18 causally mentions the justification of all… right?
Colossians 1:20 mentions the reconciliation of all, as well.

Well… Do they happen at the same time, or does one come first?????

Now keep in mind, both are THE WORK OF GOD… and we can say with assurity (sp?) they are THE WORK OF GOD IN THE CROSS OF CHRIST.


Keep in mind, justification is the work of God
Also, keep in mind, reconciliation is the work of God.

I know you have a tendency to lean on the idea that we have a part in these works of God.
And you tend to make these works of God in the cross of His beloved Son, “an offer” instead of “His operation” altogether.

But … we have to start somewhere seeing God. So, why not start with these questions.

Which comes first???
The justification of all????
The reconciliation of all????
Romans 5:18…
Colossians 1:20…

You can answer below in the comments…
Or… if you’d like, you can come into the show, the livestream… and give your answer there, with me.

For the rest of you saints… who are peering into the things of God…
This seems to be a vital question….
Of course all is of God… (Romans 11:36, II COR 5:18-19, And that passage in Acts where Paul tells the crowd, “All is out of Him” in some form or another… where is that? Acts 17? Can’t remember.)

We want to appreciate the things of God. And we’d want to understand how God operates all things, right?

So, we also want to know how we come closer to God. Are we justified first? Wow.
Are we then reconciled more and more? Wow.

Just thinking.
P.S. Grace to you, and peace.

Romans 5: 18 Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for all mankind for condemnation, thus also it is through one just award for all mankind for life’s justifying.

Colossians 1:20 and through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens.

Romans 4:25
Who was given up because of our offenses, and was roused because of our justifying.
Romans 4:25
Who was given up over (?) our offenses, and was roused over (?) our justifying.


“The proclamation of circumcision, or of lawkeeping. or of any human effort to attain the favor of God entails no persecution. The cross is a snare, which not only captures but crushes us. No human pretensions can abide the great fact of His utter humiliation and shameful death for us on the cross and the sober truth that such were our deserts, not His. Christ Himself is our righteousness. We loathe every effort of our own.”


Galatians 5:
11 Now I, brethren, if I am still heralding circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? Consequently the snare of the cross of Christ has been nullified.


Once again you completely missed the premise. You are claiming that Christ dying for everybody’s sins and rising again is useless unless they “respond correctly“. In other words you are making each person to be their own savior. Are you even thinking about these things? Do you ever say out loud what you are actually espousing? It’s insane.

Why do billions and billions of people not “respond the right way”?? Ohhhhh I see, you are lifting yourself above them. So Christ did the exact same thing for those billions of people as he did for you, 2000 years ago, but somehow your “response“ earned you a happy eternity while they are “lost forever“. PURE SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

You have turned “believing” into one big giant work. Ironic.

But like I said, your huge stumbling block is that you have no clue whatsoever concerning the “ages“ which the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures talk about. You foolishly call everything “eternal“. This continues to be your huge stumbling block.

Also, you have spun some crazy idea out of your own brains saying that the death of Christ only saves human beings from the “first death“. The Scriptures never teach such a thing anywhere whatsoever. Death is death. Christ saves from all death, and at the consummation death will be abolished. This includes the second death. Why are you so against such glorious truth? I thought you loved everybody? Shouldn’t you be rejoicing about this glorious evangel? Instead, you fight against it. That is sad. But like I said, your huge stumbling block is that you do not discern the Hebrew and Greek scriptures talking about the “ages/eons“. But you call everything “eternity“ because you are locked up in men’s traditions.

I have attempted to reason with you from the Scriptures and from logic. I will probably have to move on at this point. But as I said earlier, you seem like a nice enough lady. May God and Christ yet, draw you in and turn the lights on even though you kick against it with your smart alec fatalistic “sovereignty“ remarks.

Christ died for my sins and rose again whether I “respond correctly“ or not. He saved me at the cross no matter how I feel about it right now. But your huge stumbling block is that you do not realize that everybody will come into the knowledge of the truth as the ages unfold. That is your huge stumbling block, and so you run around threatening people with “eternal consequences“. It’s irrational and it’s disgusting.



  1. Depression? – D-3, sun?
  2. Margaret’s question…
    Why freewillers are so mean?
  3. We believe for Christ’s sake..??
    28 and not being startled by those who are opposing in anything, which is to them a proof of destruction, yet of your salvation, and this from God,
    29 for to you it is graciously granted, for Christ’s sake, not only to be believing on Him, but to be suffering for His sake (HOOPARE?) also,
    30 having the same struggle such as you are perceiving in me, and now are hearing to be in me.
  4. “The (so-called) Leader of The James Gang.” — Galatians 2:12 – And certain men came from James.
    Galatians 2: 21 I am not repudiating the grace of God, for if righteousness is through law, consequently Christ died gratuitously.
    Non-Christians can see the difference between Paul’s teachings and the rest of the Bible, which makes it funny how few actual Christians can see the difference.
    Those in the (actual) James Gang (the Israel of God) are hoping for grace, which will be brought to them when Jesus returns to the earth (1 Peter 1:13).
    We, however, are already standing in grace (Romans 5:2)

There are so many differences between the Israel of God and the body of Christ that you have to be supernaturally blinded to them to not see them.
——The body of Christ is gifted with acceptance of our salvation (faith that Paul’s Gospel is true), but it isn’t our acceptance of our already existing salvation that saves us.
8… DREW’S NOTE: “The Israel of God doesn’t (and can’t) understand Paul’s Gospel, and doesn’t even try to. Today’s James Gang thinks they do understand it, and mixes it with law.”

    8 For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God’s approach present,
    9 not of works, lest anyone should be boasting.
    10 For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.
    10: COLOSSIANS 1:16 for in Him is all created, that in the heavens and that on the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones, or lordships, or sovereignties, or authorities, all is created through Him and for Him,
    13: ROMANS 8:20 For to vanity was the creation subjected, not voluntarily, but because of Him Who subjects it, in expectation
    21 that the creation itself, also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
  4. GOD SAVES ALL, even Paul-the murderer, Pharaoh, and Judas. Even the self-righteous freewillers, and dullards. I COR 1:26-29 HE CHOOSES the weak, ignoble and stupid. (Stupid). To confound (disgrace) the wise and strong. — that NO FLESH CAN BE BOASTING IN HIS SIGHT.
    16: “You’re not the boss of me.”

Grace to you.
Ace and the other boys.


We’ve had some opposers lately…
And I’ve noticed over the years that those guys who say “God ain’t gonna save everybody”… almost never starts with GOD.
They tend to say “Not everyone will be saved.”
Get it… they don’t start with God.
Whereas, those of us who “believe God” (a hint towards “Abraham believes God”) — We most always start by saying…

And it’s a powerful thought.
The freewill gang, tends to worship man and man’s participation in the whole thing… so they say. “Not everyone will be saved”….
But they never say “God ain’t gonna save all.”
They can’t start their supposition with “GOD”….
It would tend to blow their cover.
If GOD is the savior, who are you to tell Him who He can or cannot save. I hear through the grapevine that He is the savior of SINNERS… GET IT?
God is the savior of all… might better hint that ALL are sinners, and that’s exactly WHO God saves.
Our opposers don’t know it but they worship the creature rather than the Creator. (See Romans 1:25)
Oh, how humbling to approach this whole thing with a view of God… and not overreach with the importance of man’s response or “responsibility.”
You’ll note that the word “responsibility” is just not in the Bible. … ain’t that something?
Any way… grace to you. We’ll do a live show later this morning, Lord willing.


It’s a little after 4 a.m. my time…
And I have some thoughts on this big idea that Paul says… “Hey, TEACH THIS”… in I TIM 4:11.
Of course Paul has a lot to say to the saints in Rome, Corinth, Galatia, etc… He tells them to behave. He gives them excuses to believe God. He reveals what’s going to happen in the oncoming eons. He peels back the layers of the story so we can see the love God has for Christ and how moved God is and was with what Christ did on the cross.
But… to tell you the truth, rarely does Paul specifically tell the saints or any of his co-workers to “TEACH THIS”.
But he does just that in I TIM 4:11.
So, before we peel this onion back… I dare suggest to you that there is one thing that Paul does say “DON’T TEACH THIS”… He does not want you teaching a mixture of law and works and grace. You get that clearly from Galatians… in fact… in chapter two… (hang on, I’ll look it up) (it’s Galatians 2:5) Paul says… “I don’t let those James Gangers even teach this crap for an hour,” before I call them out, and maybe even punches them out. Here’s the verse:
Galatians 2: 5 to whom, not even for an hour do we simulate by subjection, that the truth of the evangel should be continuing with you.
I know, you’ll need more of this verse to see the context…. But I’ll give you a nutshell as to what’s going on… You see… God gave Paul a unique message… one that was for the gentiles (not the jews) and it was a message of falling in love with God apart from the law. (See Acts 18:13)
Well, some boys from Jerusalem heard about Paul’s work down in Antioch and they were suspicious that Paul was not “doing it right” that Paul was not bringing in the boys in the right way… in a manner that fits with THE LAW… So, these guys infiltrated Paul’s meetings and brought in ideas that matched with LAW/WORKS/ OBEY/ and all that bondage crap. They were against little ole “freedom”.
And Paul did not put up with them. Not even for an hour. Here is a bit more of the context of that big argument from Galatians:
Chapter 21 Thereupon, after the lapse of fourteen years, I again went up to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking Titus also along with me.2 Now I went up in accord with a revelation, and submitted to them the evangel which I am heralding among the nations, yet privately to those of repute, lest somehow I should be racing or ran for naught.3 But not even Titus, who is with me, being a Greek, is compelled to be circumcised.4 Yet, it was because of the false brethren who were smuggled in, who came in by the way to spy out our freedom which we have in Christ Jesus, that they shall be enslaving us-5 to whom, not even for an hour do we simulate by subjection, that the truth of the evangel should be continuing with you.
As you can see there is a lot to unpack here.
Let’s try:

  1. Paul went up to Jerusalem “in accord with a revelation.” — That’s kinda special language, right? He did not “feel obligated” to go up… no… he went up in accord with a revelation. We don’t use such language today… but we can understand that his were weighty words, right?
  2. The dudes he had to deal with were “false” brethren. — now get this… these dudes were clearly part of the ecclesia in Jerusalem, right. They were known, recognized, and were able to sneak into the meeting where Paul was presenting his unique, special, message, to get the tacit approval of Peter, James and John. Well, these “false brethren” snuck in and caused all kinds of havoc. They wanted to enslave the gentile saints of God. And Paul wouldn’t put up with it for more that 59 minutes and 59 seconds.
    You see, God’s grace, shown to the gentiles is WAY special… and you’re not going to ruin it with a bunch of rules, law, and an endless list of THINGS YOU MUST do… to please this “unpleasable” God.
    You see, according to Paul’s message of Grace, God is happy with mankind right now… not because mankind has done anything deserving of kindness, no… we’re still the stinkers we’ve always been. But due to the work that was accomplished on the cross of Christ… God is now happy with us all.
    And Paul is not going to let those “judaizers” (how do you spell that dang word, I don’t use it much, hang on). Found it. Thanks bing.
    So, anyway… we don’t want to be teaching anything that hints of law and works. Instead we want to be teaching that which harmonized with God’s love and grace — Grace, get it?: the favor of God shown to anyone who doesn’t deserve it, and in fact, actually deserves the OPPOSITE of favor.
    So, what are we to “teach”?????????
    We, we find instruction in I TIMOTHY 4: 11 where Paul says “TEACH THIS” boys and girls.
    In fact, he says “Command and teach these things”
    What are “these things”…
    Well… hop up to the previous verse… and we see….
    “We rely on the living God, who is the savior of all mankind, especially of believers.”
    That’s the stuff we should be teaching on every occasion… we should teach it and unpack it. There’s a lot there. You won’t find “christian” preachers out there teaching this. Why? Because they tend to be like those judaizers who — hate our freedom in Christ. They want to “enslave us” to the law… and works… and “the list of do’s and don’ts.”
    The real punch of I TIM 4:10 is that GOD IS THE SAVIOR. We are not our own savior. And if we were our own savior, we have much to worry about. There’s no peace in that thought. But if God is the savior, then we can relax, and trust the great God of heaven, to be THE SAVIOR. God is the Creator of all, and the Savior of all.
    No only should we “trust” in the living God… but we should count this as a FAITHFUL SAYING and WORTHY OF ALL WELCOME… as Verse 9 says.
    But you won’t find many christian preachers or churches who tell you this is a “faithful saying” and tell you that this is “worth of all acceptance”… and for sure they won’t tell you that GOD IS THE SAVIOR … much less THE SAVIOR OF ALL.
    You see it goes over their heads. The are caught up in self-worship and trying, trying, trying, to be good, and keep the law, and prove to God that God owes them something. (Like salvation).
    Any way, THIS is what we should TEACH… I know it’s wildly foreign to most “christian” minds… but it’s right there in I TIMOTHY 4: 9-10-11.
    And don’t be teaching guilt-tripping works and law.
    You’ll actually get a much better result if you teach the truth of God in it’s appropriate dispensation.
    You see the Law and Works have their place, but not NOW… not during God’s dealings of Grace with the gentiles. Don’t mix the two messages. TEACH THIS.
    And if the law guys sneak in to SPY OUT YOUR FREEDOM… smack em good, for me.

Don’t put up with them for even one hour.

Grace is a serious thing. Stick to Paul’s letters. Ignore the rest of the “bible” at least until you get established in the evangel of Grace… then you can take a peak at what was delivered to the Jews concerning their kingdom era.

This is a message of peace. And grace.
Grace to you.
Early morning musings.



Good morning saints.
It’s a little after 7 a.m. and it’s still dark outside… but I wanted to share with you some thoughts about some of Paul’s “THROW-AWAY” LINES.
Now, I’m using this phrase (throw-away lines) in the sense that this line is so foundational to the course of the conversation, that why, of course, you get it, it needs no further explanation. It’s almost like an ellipsis — but different.
Here’s how this came up in my mind.
I was on Bruce’s channel last night, (Blessed Bible Fight Club) and Bruce asked me for a scripture that proves the salvation of all. So I gave him (among others) Romans 8:20-21.
Well, Bruce has to go and marginalize the verse by reading the whole dang chapter… all the verses that came before and all the ones that came after… and low and behold, they’re all for “the church” — “the believers” — and Bruce could not see that verses 20-21 were what I might call “THROW-AWAY” lines.
You see, a “throw-away” line (in the movies) is something that is tossed in that is so foundational, so obvious, that only a child would miss it.
Remember the first movie “Star Wars” and Hans Solo is all tired and sweaty, and trying to save the universe, and Princess Leah says to him “I love you.” — A touching moment to be sure.
What was Solo’s response? He says “I know.”
It was a “throw-away” line. A foundational line to the whole story plot. Solo was saying-showing he couldn’t be bothered with this “love” business, he has a universe to save, and so forth.
“I know” indeed.
Well… Paul has to write and tell the saints about many things concerning daily life, church life, how to deal with the cares of life, etc. And in the mist of telling Titus about how to pick and groom elders and supervisors in the ecclesia… Paul throws in this:
(Hang on, let me check that…)
It’s in chapter 2…
11 For the saving grace of God made its advent to all humanity,
I was trying to get Bruce to see that Romans 8:20-21 is a fine verse to see and realize the BIG PICTURE of God. But he is so distracted by all the minutia of the chapter, he doesn’t see this FOUNDATIONAL “throw-away” line.
But Paul lays them all over— I Tim 2:4, I TIM 4:10, Eph 1:20, Romans 11:36, II COR 5:18-19, and so forth. They’re laying all around.
And they are foundational to “believing God” … you see.
Now, if you’re inclined to believe man’s traditions, you’ll overlook the importance of these great lines.
(Like a kid who hears Han Solo, and doesn’t know the importance of “I know”.)
Several weeks ago on this channel, we (or “I”) tried to make a joke by saying “Hey, let’s start a mime with the hashtag “#I DON’T KNOW” … based on Martin Zender’s drawing of the Freewill Chick saying “I DON’T KNOW WHY OTHERS DON’T CHOOSE CHRIST LIKE I CHOSE CHRIST”…
It’s such a funny cartoon.
So, if we could ever get a “hashtag” going like “I don’t know”… then we should also get another one going call “I know”.
One is from the Freewill Chick, the other from Han Solo.
So, this line from Titus…
… is really the core of all that we believe, and hope for. Right?
Who is “the saving grace of God”???
It’s the Son of His love, right?
It’s our Lord and savior, right?
And when Paul says it made it’s advent, are we going to marginalize that? Or rejoice in it?
Of course the “#I don’t know” people are going to say, it doesn’t mean anything that the saving grace of God has made it’s advent… they are going to say, the only thing that means anything is WHETHER OR NOT YOU REPOND TO IT IN THE RIGHT KIND OF WAY.
See what I mean about “throw-away”…?
It goes right over the head of most.
Oh, let’s go and quote Romans 8:20-21…
20 For to vanity was the creation subjected, not voluntarily, but because of Him Who subjects it, in expectation21 that the creation itself, also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
It’s a stand-alone verse, it can fit into Paul’s teaching most anywhere… and he tosses it in here? Yes, right in the middle of yakking about other things exclusive to the believers… Paul reveals “THE BIGGER PICTURE”… (READ THAT IN A DEEP MOVIE COMMENTATOR’S VOICE)
“that the creation itself” So God cares for the believers, but He also cares for the whole creation, get it? And has plans for both.
Han Solo’s two words had so much hidden inside them… like “I’m busy now” or “Let’s about this later” etc. It’s a throw away line… and carries a lot of weight.
“Creation” is a mighty big word, right?
“Believers” is a mighty special word, right?
But you don’t want to conflate the two.
You want to believe BOTH.
God is the savior of all (I TIM 4:10)
And God is especially the savior of Believers (I TIM 4:10).
We want to believe both. Right?
It’s just flat out — trying to think of a word that not too harmful… let’s try IMMATURE… not to see the import of Paul’s throw-away lines. Nothing makes sense without them. You must have a foundation of these lines, or the minutia makes no sense.
God is the savior of all. (I TIM 4:10)
All will be reconciled through the blood of the cross. (COL 1:20)
Every knee will bow. (Phil 2:5-11)
All will be headed up in the Christ (Eph 1:10)
God will be all in all. (I COR 15:28)
And of course…
“The saving grace of God has made it advent to all humanity”… (TIT 2:11) — I love this passage.
Don’t tell me that the power of the “saving grace” of God… lies in man and man’s correct response.
If the “saving grace of God” does not save… then the verse would say something like:
“Humanity had better respond in the right kind of way, or there’s hell to pay.” — or some cheap quip like that.
But NO — THE SAVING GRACE OF GOD (we believe this to be a true thing, our opposers doubt this little phrase) HAS MADE IT’S ADVENT (we must be talking about Christ’s work on the cross, right, what else could it be? It’s a foundational idea through all of Paul’s letters.. remember: He humbled Himself, and became obedient even to the death of the cross — from Phil 2:5-11) TO ALL HUMANITY… don’t try to tell me that the SAVING GRACE OF GOD is merely a tease… it’s merely a “possibility” .. it’s an “offer” — like a TV pitchman.
This ADVENT has to be a powerful word.
It has to be an efficacious word.
It has to overwhelm our itty bitty minds, hearts and objections. Like the rising sun’s ADVENT changes everything with light and warmth… THIS IS WHY WE BELIEVE.
It’s not that our belief made the sun rise… NO, the sun made it’s advent and it’s changing every thing.
I hope these thoughts help you believe God… and see that the “throw-away” lines are so very special.
Grace to you.
P.S… the phrase “BELIEVE GOD” shows up in TITUS 3:8… it’s kinda of “throw-away” line. The opposite of “believe God”… is to believe the traditions and myths of man. (Also discussed in Titus.)


Bro, I need your help on this. You mentioned the Ark and propitiation and Romans 3 in your message last Friday. But why would we need propitiation or atonement or covering or forgiveness, if we are justified? The circumcision (and proselytes) needs propitiation. John talks about it in 1 John 2:2. And isn’t that the Luke 24:47 “repentance and pardon of sins“ commission?

ROMAN 5: 7 For hardly for the sake of a just man will anyone be dying: for, for the sake of a good man, perhaps someone may even be daring to die,
8 yet God is commending this love of His to us, seeing that, while we are still sinners, Christ died for our sakes.
13 Who rescues us out of the jurisdiction of Darkness, and transports us into the kingdom of the Son of His love,
14 in Whom we are having the deliverance, the pardon of sins,
15 Who is the Image of the invisible God, Firstborn of every creature,
16 for in Him is all created, that in the heavens and that on the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones, or lordships, or sovereignties, or authorities, all is created through Him and for Him,
17 and He is before all, and all has its cohesion in Him.
18 And He is the Head of the body, the ecclesia, Who is Sovereign, Firstborn from among the dead, that in all He may be becoming first,
19 for in Him the entire complement delights to dwell,
20 and through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens.


Paul talks about propitiation in Romans 3, but the Concordant version puts that section in parentheses. Paul was talking about the Jews and the Nations in Romans chapters 1 thru 3. The parentheses section (v 25) is concerning penalties that were passed over, and so they (Jews) needed propitiation. It is not speaking of us. Right?

Why would we need a propitiation in the evangel of the uncircumcision? Doesn’t propitiation fall in line with repentance and pardon? If I am perfect by the righteousness of God and justified, why would I need a propitiation? 

Notice again how Romans 3:25 talks about the passing over of the penalties of sin. This is referring to the Jews. That’s why I think the Concordant version puts verse 25 in parentheses. That is who is in view when Paul uses the word propitiation right there. And this is why John also says “propitiation“ in 1 Jn 2:2.

Paul says we are “justified in his blood,“ in Romans five. So through his evangel we get justification by the blood. In the circumcision evangel they get pardon or propitiation by the blood. 

Let me know what you think of these things.

Rom 3:24-26——-

24 Being justified gratuitously in His grace, through the deliverance which is in Christ Jesus
25 (Whom God purposed for a Propitiatory shelter, through faith in His blood, for a display of His righteousness because of the passing over of the penalties of sins which occurred before in the forbearance of God),
26 toward the display of His righteousness in the current era, for Him to be just and a Justifier of the one who is of the faith of Jesus.

I John 2——
2 And He is the propitiatory shelter concerned with our sins, yet not concerned with ours only, but concerned with the whole world also.