BRUCE INVITED ME TO “DEBATE” HIM ABOUT THE TRINITY STUFF.
HERE IS HIS CHANNEL:
IT’S SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN TONIGHT A 8:30 p.m.
LAWD, WHAT HAVE I GOT MYSELF INTO. BRUCE’S ANNOUNCEMENT:
Wednesday, March 16th, 2022.
Holy smoke, it’s 41º out side…
With a high of 51º expected.
Ok, I think I got the spacing right. That white line was bugging me.
Good morning Dear One,
You are in Him.
You might call today a “big day” for me. I got myself roped into a debate… ole Bruce of the “Blessed Bible Fight Club” wants me to show up on his channel to argue “trinity” stuff.
I know I’m not going to “win the debate” because I don’t care about “trinity” stuff one way or the other.
Bruce is on about “the deity of Christ”… ain’t that sweet?
Note to Tony in Australia…
We haven’t spoken on a personal level for a while.
I trust all is well with you.
Years ago, I used to be a news junkie. But for the past …oh… four years, I’ve ignored all the yak yak, we call “news” — as best as I could.
Even 2 years ago when covid was hot stuff… I ignored it all as best as I could and just went on with my daily business. Never even wore a mask when I went shopping. Now keep in mind I only go out “shopping” once a month or so…(hardware store, maybe a mexican food joint) but still… I didn’t wear a mask, and was only busted by an employee one time… we exchanged words but I kept on “shopping”.
Anyway… these days, I think ignoring the news is fun. The broadcasters (whether its prime propaganda or so-called “alternative”) all traffic in urgency and panic. It took me many years of following all that crap to realize the urgency and panic never happens like they say… and they never apologize for getting it wrong. When Reagan was elected (or selected?) as president, I was a young liberal. I was panicked beyond belief. I just “knew” this old Republican fart was going to lead us into world war 3… But the world kept moseying along… at a slow grind.
The worst I can remember happening during the Reagan years is Nancy was on about “just say NO to drugs” — and someone drove a “truck bomb” into a marine barracks in Lebanon and some 200 marines were killed.
Oh, yeah… I remember now… vaguely… Reagan wanted to do something the might be good for humanity but not good for the dark overlords of the universe, so his CIA Vice President had him shot. And then Reagan started behaving himself to avoid any other errant flying objects.
My point is the “news” and the reporting of it all is jammed packed with urgency that usually turns to a slow burn, if anything.
“If it bleeds, it leads” is a favorite quote among broadcasters.
I know I’ve got a point here… but damned if I know what it is… maybe it’s that…
All this “Ukraine” news is the same ole thing… a slow burn, dressed up as urgency and panic.
I think my last real drink at the fountain of urgency and panic… was when Bill Clinton got his BJ from Monica. I didn’t care much about that, but I thought for sure all the heightened attention on him would lead to uncovering all his other shenanigans — you know like dead lawyers found in the park and dead congressmen found in airplanes.
But no… life goes on with a slow grind, a slow burn.
On Christmas Day, some years ago, (2004?) there was a tsunami that killed something like 100,000 people in an hour or so… and I was all over that “news”… I had a girl friend at the time who was so flighty, and clueless… that she knew nothing about that “news”… for what… weeks? And when she heard that 100,000 folks perished on Christmas Day, she could have cared less. She flittered about her business.
Well… these days, I’m seeing the value in her attitude a bit more.
Covid? What’s that?
Ukraine? What’s that?
Panic and urgency? What’s that?
Dare we say the panic and urgency is a pack of lies? But how can we say it without participating in the lies as well.
HELP… URGENT… THEY ARE LYING TO YOU… YOU MUST DO SOMETHING… TO STOP THE LIES… HELP…..
How do you get to the place where you hear the manipulation and the lies and smile… and relax and breath… and know that “all is out of Him, through Him and for Him.” (Romans 11:36)
Now that I think about it… I think the James Gang and the puritans out of New England, traffic in panic and urgency. I think it’s a thing with them.
There must be a brain chemical released in the panic and urgency news cycle.
It’s a good thing God is taking His sweet time to make sure everything is right. God’s eonian purpose (EPH 3:11) has two more eons in which to play out.
They are “good” eons, compared to what we’ve been use to so far. They are called “the eons of the eons” when mentioned together. The very last one is called “the eon of the eons”.
And since eon is the longest time period mentioned in the Bible… I suspect we can settle down and see that God is no hurry and no panic.
I think we can say that the cross of Christ…gives even God peace. God knows the matter has been settled. Christ’s work on the cross brings us all to the Father. And God is in no hurry.
Slow and steady. Two more eons to go.
And then… at the “consummations of the eons” (I COR 10:11) all bets are off. Everything changes. God becomes All, in all. Breathtaking.
So, dear Tony, I can’t help it… it’s where I am at the moment… I, selfishly, recommend for you to ignore the panic and urgency, presented by the “news”… and see, understand, realize, some things other than panic and urgency… wow…
Silly me… I have this compost pile… and I find it fascinating… to watch it, grow, heat up, decompose, turn into food and a home for microbes and earth worms. And turn into sweet smelling soil. There’s nothing “urgent” in that. That stuff is going to decompose with or without much help from you. That is the way of God and nature. But nothing goes to waste.
There is a tribe of Indians in my area called the “Utes”… thus the name “Utah”. A few years ago, I was hiking out in the Unita Mountains… and got real deep into the woods… real deep… and the thought came to me that, some 400 years ago, there might have been a Ute Indian standing right there, and it never came into his mind that “I need to make the world a better place”… which was a popular sloganeering thing back then. It might still be, but I don’t get out much. But that Indian, never once thought that thought.
We are all a product of our times. There are so many influences that push us to do this or that… and my god, when you see it for lies, and shall we say “trust God”… you feel like you can rest.
So much that we think we know… we don’t know at all.
What about this for a thought:
“Timeless” things VS “urgency” and “panic” ???
How fun to discover the verb tense in the Greek of the New Testament… the aorist tense… it’s not past, not present, not future… no, it’s a TIMELESS verb tense. Like from John 3:16…
“For thus God loves the world, so that He gives His only begotten Son, that whosoever is believing on Him shall not be perishing, but may be having life eonian.”
Not past tense “loved”…. No, it’s timeless “loves”. etc.
Keep your friends close — by not giving them too much shit… those who complain and try to correct everyone else, kind of chase family and friends away.
Grace to you.
P.S. My compost pile is almost ready. I’ve been using parts of it to plant tobaccos seeds, walnut seeds, apricot seeds, and some vegetable that I forgot to label, so I don’t know what it is, yet, I’ll have to wait till it gets more mature.
6:22 a.m. coffee refill time. Hang on.
6:32 a.m. Onward:
Now, I’m suppose to have a “debate” or some type of chat with Bruce about trinity stuff tonight.
The topic of “trinity” has a long history. It’s mildly interesting. It’s mostly an un-understandable thing… and even it’s proponents don’t get, but won’t admit they don’t get it.
It’s like a blizzard of words to explain something that was originally a word salad. Is that a mixed metaphor or what?
With all them “words” surely you can find God in there somewhere. Right?
Hang on… I did a search for “How many bible verses say that ‘God is one’…
Here is my first result, let’s see if it pastes in ok:
“Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one!
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord;
“But He is unique and who can turn Him?
And what His soul desires, that He does.
The scribe said to Him, “Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that He is One, and there is no one else besides Him;
since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.
Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is one.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
And the Lord will be king over all the earth; in that day the Lord will be the only one, and His name the only one.
1 Corinthians 8:4
Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an idol in the world, and that there is no God but one.
You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.
one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.
1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
Well sir, I don’t know why those guys can’t settle down.
Remember the first Spiderman movie with Toby Maguire?
Well, Spiderman saves the city and Mary Jane from all hell breaking lose, he’s got Mary Jane in one arm and slinging around the town using the other arm, and she’s screaming and screaming… and Spiderman says “Mary Jane, settle down.”
With that many verses from the Bible saying “God is one”… why are these guys screaming about God is three-in-one?
Maybe we’ll find out tonight when Bruce and I have a chat.
The sun is suppose to be up in 41 minutes. Exciting.
Wow… how many times does the Bible say “God is one”??? And how many times does the Bible say that “God is three-in-one”???
Gosh, I feel silly bothering with this topic… OK… let’s move on….
HEY UNIVERSE… PLEASE NOTE:
“God was in Christ”… so says II COR 5:18-21.
That means you’re in trouble.
God was in Christ… so you have no excuse.
God was in Christ… so you’ll have to come home now.
God was in Christ… so dinner is ready.
God was in Christ… so you can stop showing off, ok?
God was in Christ… He’s not taking “no” for an answer.
God was in Christ… The kind of trouble you’re in includes killing the grain-feed calf… and throwing a HUGE party… you’ll see.
God was in Christ… changing the rules of the game.
God was in Christ… you can’t fool Him any longer.
God was in Christ… saving your butt once and for all.
God was in Christ … making sure you’re safe.
(SIDE NOTE: are the words “save” and “safe” related? One would think so… so can we change the christian lingo to be you are safe in Christ… rather than you are saved in Christ? Slight difference…but more homey. More intimate. Safe in Christ is a place… a place to be… protected… sheltered….
I think it might work better as the word “safe” is kind of active, in my mind, whereas the word “saved” seems to be used as a one-time event… like a bargaining chip.
But even the word SAVED in the Bible could mean a number of things, as you go along… you can be “saved” in the past, you can be “saved” from falling in a ditch, you can be “saved” in your understanding and “saved” from confusion, etc. And the ultimate “salvation” is revealed in I COR 15:26… when God, in Christ, abolishes death-mortality altogether at the consummation of the eons…. And God becomes all in all… THAT is the ultimate “save” or “salvation”….
Israel’s salvation is different than the salvation of the ecclesia, which is His body.
POINT: The word “saved” or “salvation” is a common noun, and you trinitarian/freewillers should be more specific about which salvation you’re referring to… so get this…
God was in Christ… saving the world… so says II COR 5:18-20.
II Cor 5:
18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ,
(1) conciliating the world to Himself,
(2) not reckoning their offenses to them,
(3) and placing in us the word of the conciliation.
20 For Christ, then, are
(4)…we ambassadors, as of God entreating through us. We are beseeching for Christ’s sake,
“Be conciliated to God!”
(5) …For the One not knowing sin, He makes to be a sin for our sakes
(6) that we may be becoming God’s righteousness in Him.
I count six things God was doing “in Christ”…
7:21 a.m… a moment filled with grace.
So God was in Christ, conciliating the whole dang world to Himself. And while He was there, He made it so that He’s not holding anyone’s offensive behavior against them…. wow…. And then He gives us the word about this matter… so we can hop around and tell everyone we know… “Hey, ya know, God’s not mad at you anymore, so you can forgive Him, if you’ve got a minute.”
Anyway… It’s such good news. And it’s a timeless thing. Since God was in Christ… the matter is settled, and God is sitting at the supper table, with an eye on each of us… He knows we can’t resist for long. It’s the kind of love that goes beyond mere “I love you” words… You see, God was in Christ… conciliating the world to Himself.
It’s more than a “big concept”…
The word “world” in this case is “cosmos” I bet. And if that is the case, it just might mean that God is at peace with even HOW the world is going, as the word cosmos includes the “world system” ie ruling affairs, and all that stuff.
Imagine that…. God doing something in Christ so great that He’s not even mad at the Rothchilds… wow. Crime families of the world unite… God is inviting you to dinner.
Now you have to admit, the metaphor or notion of crime families being invited to the dinner table of God… it would have to change those of the crime family (that includes you Bucky, none are righteous, get it?) — They would be “changed” by the mere presence of The Father of all, don’t cha see.
I’ve heard a lot of musicians say that they play better when they are playing with better musicians… weird, huh?
And I’ve noticed in my own life, when you’re in the presence of greatness, you change your behavior as well.
So just imagine all the crime families of the world being invited to the supper table of God… and sitting down… OMG, when you’re in the presence of greatness you can’t but help become a better you.
When I was a kid, oh, say 13, 14, years old… my Grandfather was like the patriarch of the extended family. He was a “christian”, godly man. He lived about 100 miles away… and when he would come for a weekend visit, I noticed that my stepdad and all my uncles would hide the beer and the cigarettes.
“Who is this man?” I thought to myself, that he could, without a word, make my stepdad and uncles behave themselves when he was around. ???
I’m telling you being in the presence of greatness inspires greatness.
When Paul — oops, Saul, — met the risen Christ on the highway to Damascus, the words that fell out of his mouth were in essence, “oh shit”.
When you in the presence of greatness you tend to rise … rise to the occasion.
If you’re in a den of thieves, you’ll act like one of them…
I’m excited to see the crime families of the world sit down at the supper table of God… oh my, I can imagine the dinner conversation… you have to know, every heart will melt. Every head will mildly shake. Every one will toast to our Lord and Savior.
AND GET THIS… Let’s say those crime families have a bit of blood on their hands… and let’s say they killed a lot of people… now imagine this… they are seated at the supper table of God, and in walks all the people they killed and they all sit down right across from the crime family on the other side of the table… won’t that spark an interesting dinner conversation???
God was in Christ… accomplishing so much… and there is so much to play out… and Christ died for crime families, one and all.
I’m so excited.
BTW, pray that tonight, when I sit down with Bruce, that God give us both a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the realization of Him.
Grace to you.
Exit: stage right.