…when I quote “and certain men came from James,” (Galatians 2:12) it’s a reference to Galatians one and two… I think it’s a powerful verse which reveals that the works brothers are twouble.
The brethern from Antioch were a bunch of pagan, who were hang loose.
I’m sure that most of their meetings were pot-luck suppers.
I COR 11 seems to indicate pot-luck suppers, as some were overeating and some were getting drunk.
The contrast between the pagan brethern and those from James is “killer”… they (the James gang) were legalistic and works, works all works.
You’ll NEVER hear a sermon on CERTAIN MEN CAME FROM JAMES… even though it’s just as much scripture as John 3:16.
Hey, grace to you.
Maybe I’ll call you later.
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 6:01 AM Alan Azargushasb email@example.com wrote:
” Your friendly neighborhood Antioch style pagan brother who has no time for “certain men that came from James.”
whats that all about ?
anyhow the rest of your response is great
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:18 PM Linwood Austin firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
STACY SAYS I HAVE “DEPARTED FROM THE FAITH” ‘CAUSE I BELIEVE GOD IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL.
SHE QUOTED I TIM 4…IN ORDER TO ACCUSE ME. SEE MY REPLY BELOW:
I TIM 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Stacy… If I say..
“God is the savior of all”… and you say…
“Wait a minute buddy, did you read the disclaimer? ; all don’t mean all…”
If I say All is of God… and you say…
“Note the disclaimer; it doesn’t mean that at all” …
If I say we’re saved by the faith OF Christ… and you say… “Hold on there chump, read the fine print; OF means IN…”
If I say all are created IN Christ…. suddenly you say “IN means BY, it’s right there in fine print.”
You’re the one who is advocating for a departure from the faith into a “DISCLAIMER FAITH”… legalistic, works oriented, pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps kind of thing.
It’s like you run your own heavenly TOS (terms of service) fine-print, law-office that runs on and on and on, with that “agreement” that no one can read, cares to read, and would never sign onto if they did read it all.
Why can’t I believe that God is both the creator of all, and the savior of all?
It seems to me that DISCLAIMERS are a departure from the faith.
In the early church (as oppose to the “latter days”) I can’t imagine they had DISCLAIMER classes every Sunday.
Good quote by the way, from Paul, we are in the latter days… and freewillers have sure helped many to depart from the faith. Sheesh… who wouldn’t run from that stuff, when it diminishes Christ’s awesome work on the cross, and makes it into a TRANSACTIONAL salvation, dependent entirely on what man does or does not do…. what man brings to the table… what man can do to make up for the fact that he’s not really saved by the death and resurrection of the Son of His Love.
I would say “grace to you” but apparently you don’t need it.
Your friendly neighborhood Antioch style pagan brother who has no time for “certain men that came from James.”